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Post by jeroen on Oct 25, 2010 7:32:29 GMT -5
These Rinehart images were sent to me by a friend: Bull Ghost  I have this man identified both as a Sans Arc, a member of Sitting Bull's band and as a Yanktonai... Iron Hawk  a Hunkpapa and a participant in the Little Bighorn battle... Spotted Elk  an Oglala? |
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Post by grahamew on Oct 25, 2010 10:10:24 GMT -5
Great photos. Thanks for posting them. Pretty sure that is the Oglala Spotted Elk and that Iron Hawk is the northern Oglala
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Post by Dietmar on Oct 25, 2010 15:39:20 GMT -5
Like you, I always thought that this Spotted Elk was Oglala until I participated in a discussion with Spotted Elk´s (Big Foot) gr-gr-grandson and our member Ephriam. If I remember correctly Spotted Elk´s son, who took his father´s name, after Wounded Knee stayed at Pine Ridge. It is likely that therefore he often was identified in photographs as Oglala.
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Post by grahamew on Oct 26, 2010 2:57:27 GMT -5
 That's the same Spotted Elk to the right and Iron Hawk at the left, isn't it? |
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Post by Dietmar on Oct 26, 2010 8:23:10 GMT -5
Yes, same person to me. He also was on delegation trips to Washington in 1890s.
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Post by charlie on Oct 26, 2010 10:10:10 GMT -5
Wonderful and savage the image of IRON HAWK (Cetan Maza). I always have seen him labelled as Hunkpapa, not Oglala.
He was born in Montana in 1862. He fought at LBH and was wounded from a bullet below the ribs. After, he made a discription of the the battle in the sign language.
Other info about about him?
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Post by naiches2 on Oct 26, 2010 16:39:07 GMT -5
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Post by charlie on Nov 3, 2010 12:26:13 GMT -5
Still about IRON HAWK: age 14 when he rode into LBH battle with his bow and arrows and his face painted red; shot and killed a soldier on horseback with an arrow in the Custer fight. Then, joined the attack on Reno's water carriers. Still living on Standing Rock in 1929.
He was a Hunkpapa, but I don't know at which band belonged him.
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Post by grahamew on Nov 3, 2010 13:48:15 GMT -5
This must be a different Iron Hawk, Charlie.
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Post by jeroen on Nov 4, 2010 9:18:59 GMT -5
I agree... This man is also identified as Iron Hawk:  |
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Post by charlie on Nov 16, 2010 8:25:27 GMT -5
Jeroen: your last image is correct. He is IRON HAWK - Hunkpapa. I've seen the same image, so labelled, in this book: "Lakota and Cheyenne. Indian views of the great Sioux war 1876-77". He was a great warrior!
Can anyone to add some info about IRON HAWK - Oglala? Please, who was this man?
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