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Post by jinlian on Jul 27, 2008 16:29:16 GMT -5
Annie, I forgot to add this picture, originally posted by Grahame in the Blue Horse thread on the LBH forum:
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Post by jinlian on Jul 27, 2008 15:23:56 GMT -5
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Post by jinlian on Jul 27, 2008 13:09:21 GMT -5
Standing Holy, daughter of Sitting Bull, as a child and young woman. Ladonna, can you add some biographical details?
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Post by jinlian on Jul 27, 2008 9:25:33 GMT -5
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Post by jinlian on Jul 27, 2008 9:22:26 GMT -5
I agree on the mouth detail; on the face-lenght, I'm not sure as the hat can give the wrong impression of a low forehead.
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Post by jinlian on Jul 27, 2008 8:31:37 GMT -5
Hi Dietmar, the man on the right is Crooked Face (a detail from a very famous picture featuring him together with his family); the man sitting near Pretty Eagle in the image you've posted seems to me a younger version of this same man. Are we speaking of the same Apsalooka, known under two different names?
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Post by jinlian on Jul 27, 2008 3:07:12 GMT -5
Wonderful photos, Dietmar! Thanks! The man sitting in the first one reminds me of Crooked Face, but I'm not 100% sure.
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Post by jinlian on Jul 27, 2008 3:05:42 GMT -5
Thanks for the offer Miyelo, I think I'll still go for the DVD. I'm surprised about their reaction anyway - in the place I live, violation of copyright is a very serious issue and I thought it was the same in the US. As we say, there's always something new to learn about people.
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Post by jinlian on Jul 26, 2008 12:12:08 GMT -5
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Post by jinlian on Jul 26, 2008 3:18:05 GMT -5
Clw, I wasn't suggesting to throw in the dustbin the pictures selected , only that it would have been nice to add a few pictures to "represent" other native groups. I guarantee that, even if Mohawk pictures are pretty scarce (but we have quite a good number of Joseph Brant portraits ), there are many high resolution pictures of fantastic-looking natives other than Dakota/Lakota. Sure, it is impossibile to represent all tribes, but on the other hand, a parliament composed of members of three parties looks still more pluralistic than a 1 party one. Diane, Dietmar, I really don't want to add another burden upon you, so forget this suggestion if it's to difficult to realize. Other than trying to start some activity in the other tribes' sections, there's no much I can do to give more space to other tribes.
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Post by jinlian on Jul 25, 2008 17:33:06 GMT -5
Two more pictures of Chief Pretty Eagle: About 1899Crow delegation, 1880 - Pretty Eagle is sitting second from left. Looks like it was taken at Carlisle.
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Post by jinlian on Jul 25, 2008 16:54:17 GMT -5
I'm feeling a little awkward in pointing this out, but I have noted that both the banner on the homepage and the one in the introduction feature only pictures of Dakota/Lakota people. Is there a reason for this? I feel (but that's personal, of course) that, for a website called "American Tribes" , it would be nice to have more than one group represented in its banners...I understand that, for many reasons, the main site and the board are quite Lakota-centric (not that I'm complaining about it ) right now, but I nevertheless hope that it will attract more material and information about other tribes too. Do you think that adding a more "pluralistic approach" in this iconographic part would help in this respect?
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Post by jinlian on Jul 25, 2008 16:30:27 GMT -5
Chief Pretty Eagle, Déahĭtsĭśh , Mountain Crow, Piegan Ackyā’mne clan, Kit-Foxes I’axuxke society. Born in 1846, a noted warrior and leader of many war parties, Chief Pretty Eagle was one of the first Apsalooka to settle in the Bighorn valley. After a period of service in the US military as scout, Pretty Eagle, along with Chief Plenty Coups, opted for using the Crow reservation lands as pasture or to use it for growing hay to sell to the nearby ranches. In 1880, together with other five Apsalooka, Pretty Eagle travelled to Washington to protest against the building of a railway line in the reservation area. In 1887, during the Sword Bearer incident, he supported the agency administration, even if he later regretted the death of Sword Bearer and condemned the killing. Pretty Eagle’s immediate family was composed of his wife and 3 children. He’s said to have taken nineteen wives, but probably most of them were temporary wives, taken during the wife-kidnapping period between the two rival warrior societies of Kit-Foxes and Lumpowood. Pretty Eagle died on November 11, 1903. After his death, his remains were sold to a collector and accessioned in the collections of the American Museum of Natural History in New York American Museum of Natural History in New York. In 1994, during a solemn two days ceremony, Pretty Eagle was reburied in a traditional fasting site near Bighorn Canyon. In the first chapter of his book Blankets and Mocassins, William Allen reports how in 1879 he saved Pretty Eagle, his wife and his youngest daughter during a snowstorm and how Pretty Eagle told him about a great battle the Apsalooka fought against the Pawnee on the early 17th century near Pryor Creek. Crow warriors, late 1870s. Standing from left: Spotted Horse? Enemy Hunter? Big Shoulder. Sitting from left: Pretty Eagle, Bull Nose, Plenty Coups, Short Bull TailCrow delegation in Washington: standing from left: M. Quivly (interpreter), Two Belly, Augustus R. Keller (Crow agent), T. Stewart (interpreter). Sitting from left: Old Crow, Medicine Crow, Long Elk, Plenty Coups, Pretty Eagle Pretty Eagle in four individual portraits made in 1880 by C. BellPretty Eagle, undatedPretty Eagle and his family, about 1885 Pretty Eagle - portrait by Elbridge Burbank
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Post by jinlian on Jul 25, 2008 9:36:24 GMT -5
Miyelo, not that I'm doubting about your sincerity and good faith, but who are these "people at Sinte Gleska"? As far as I know, the only descendant of Chief Spotted Tail working there now would be Ms. Cheryl Spotted Tail, as Ms. Neola Spotted Tail, who was a well-known and respected teacher and educatore, passed away last April. It's also interesting how oral histories can change from individual to individual - I remember my grandmother, her cousin and her sister had three different stories about how our family came to the city we're living now. They had no reason of lying, but obviously, the original story was receieved in three different ways. Also, we when look at a marble statue, it is hard to guess the shape of the original stone.
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Post by jinlian on Jul 25, 2008 8:56:29 GMT -5
Two Heyn pictures of Lucy Red Cloud, daughter of Jack Red Cloud taken in 1899: She was born in 1888 and in 1904 married Frank Afraid of His Horse, son of Young Man Afraid of His Horse and the daughter of Henry Chatillon, a white trapper and guide who lived among the Lakotas (who called him Yellow Whiteman).
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