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Post by clw on Jul 10, 2008 9:15:20 GMT -5
P.S. You have not yet become cuckoo. Believe me, I know cuckoo. ;D That point is certainly well taken. Considering some of the things I've seen you have to deal with, your admin abilities are stellar. Inevitably, there will be times here when the context of things may lead to references to Lakota spiritual beliefs. When that occurs, it's very important (at least to me) that we don't start pontificating about things we lack the understanding to discuss in the kind of depth Pohanka thinks she possesses. The only people here who have that right are our Lakota friends. I doubt Pohanka is one, as she not only didn't understand what I said, she didn't even recognize the language I used was Lakota. So the answer to that question is "absolutely not". IMHO. I see no category here that invites any such discussion. As it should be.
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Post by clw on Jul 8, 2008 12:34:08 GMT -5
I'm glad he found his way home. Thanks for the article, Ladonna.
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Post by clw on Jul 8, 2008 10:00:37 GMT -5
Aha! Must remember to keep checking back on the main pages as I see they're being continually updated. Any plans to do a piece on Lame Deer?
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Post by clw on Jul 7, 2008 15:16:33 GMT -5
Waslo'lyesni. Tuwa kakesa!
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Post by clw on Jul 7, 2008 11:22:17 GMT -5
Gordie ~
You said what I was too annoyed to say and better than I would have anyway. Thank you, dear.
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Post by clw on Jul 6, 2008 19:47:13 GMT -5
Oh, please. Get over yourself.
"a spiritual gateway into the subliminal consciousness of Indian religion"?! Like that was what Black Elk intended.
Sorry Diane and Deimar, but stuff like this makes me cuckoo.
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Post by clw on Jul 6, 2008 11:07:22 GMT -5
I came across this passage by Horatio Hale in The Iroquois Book of Rites. While it refers to the Iroquois specifically, I think it lends understanding to the errors in the historical depiction of indigenous women in general as well... The complete equality of the sexes in social estimation and influence is apparent in all the narratives of the early missionaries, who were the best possible judges on this point. Casual observers have been mislead by the absence of those artificial expressions of courtesy which have descended to us from the time of chivalry, and which, however gracious and pleasing to witness, are, after all, merely signs of condescension and protection from the strong to the weak. The Iroquois does not give up his seat to a woman, or yield her precedence on leaving a room; but he secures her in the possession of her property, he recognizes her right to the children she has borne, and he submits to her decision the choice of his future rulers.
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Post by clw on Jul 6, 2008 9:03:43 GMT -5
I've looked for information on this man myself, but have found very little. Tatanka, some of the best contemporary Lakota historians come here so maybe they'll help us. Ephraim, Kingsley and all the rest -- what DO we know?
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Post by clw on Jul 5, 2008 8:57:57 GMT -5
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Post by clw on Jul 4, 2008 16:28:18 GMT -5
Perhaps this board shouldn't be limited to conflicts with the "US Army" as the history of our First Peoples goes beyond this. There has been much controversy among [some] historians as to whether or not smallpox was intentionally used as an agent of germ warfare against the First Peoples. This article discusses the record and provides scans of the original correspondence during the French and Indian War of both Lord Jeffery Amhurst and William Trent regarding the matter. www.nativeweb.org/pages/legal/amherst/lord_jeff.htmlAnother link on this site discusses the epidemics among the plains tribes and provides some interesting information on how they began and spread. www.thefurtrapper.com/indian_smallpox.htm
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Post by clw on Jul 4, 2008 14:05:33 GMT -5
A noted anthopoligist/ethnologist (1817-1896), Hale's Four Huron Wampum Records, A Study of Aboriginal American History and Mnemonic Symbols published in the Journal of the Anthropological Institute, London, 1897 can be found here: www.canadiana.org/ECO/mtq?id=592d0157c5&display=06665+0003Now I know all that reads like it would put you to sleep in about five minutes, but this is a facinating account of Eastern Woodland history beginning when Jacques Cartier discovered the St. Lawrence in 1534. Reminds me somewhat of the work of George Hyde, although understandably not as detailed as to individuals.
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Post by clw on Jul 3, 2008 16:06:49 GMT -5
While this sculptor of American Indians and their culture is white, his work appears to be meticulously researched. His bronzes include Touch the Clouds, Rain In the Face, Washakie, Iron Hail, Long Soldier, American Horse, Four Bears, Crow King and many more. His pieces grace such places as The Cody Museum, The White House, The State Capital in Sante Fe, The Senate Rotunda, The United Nations and the Astrodome. Some of them are lifesize. Many of his works are displayed on his website, with detailed descriptions of how his research has been applied. www.davemcgary.com/A special favorite of mine... The Emergence Of The Chief honors the Iroquois Confederacy and specifically the Mohawk peoples of North America. In matriarchal societies, the women of the nation or the clan mothers, have the power to elect or impeach the Mohawk chief. The head chief speaks as a representative of the nation and is said to hold the responsibility of the position, not the power over the confederacy. This newly appointed Mohawk chief wears the gus-to-weh feathered headdress and holds a carved, wooden condolence cane designating him as the head chief of the Mohawk Nation. A condolence cane is used as an aid to memory, or mnemonic device, in the ritual recollection of the names of the preceding chiefs and their grouping by Nation.
His white linen shirt is typical of the colonial period circa 1830-1850. The elaborate raised beading designs typical of the Eastern Woodlands nations are depicted on his shirt cuffs, breechcloth, moccasins, and tobacco pouch. His leggings are beaded with the delicate 'pierce-work' beading, which resembles a blanket stitch, symbolic of the men protecting their village. The beaded pectoral yoke signifies his turtle clan association. The clan mother's elaborately beaded headpiece, moccasins, yoke and leggings are appropriate to her position as clan mother. With her left hand on the shoulder of the seated chief, she presents him with a Two Row Wampum Belt. The two dark rows of the belt represent the canoe and the sailing ship, a metaphor for the relationship between the European settlers and the First Nation peoples. The belt tells the story of how the two peoples sail the same waters and exist in harmony; they never interfere with each other and will always treat each other with respect.
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Post by clw on Jul 1, 2008 12:18:40 GMT -5
2) I would think, that it was not Custer's, nor Army, policy to deliberately kill women and children, or even Warriors that surrendered, for that matter. Clair, agree with your post in general, but you're wrong about the warriors. Custer's orders read... to destroy their villages and ponies, to kill or hang all warriors, and bring back all women and children.It's documented that as soon as Custer was aware that some women and children were being deliberately shot, he stopped it cold. The problem thoughout the NDN wars is that of all wars -- politics. And the soldier always seems to get blamed for the politics of his commander in chief. It happened in Vietnam. It's happening now-- although to a lesser extent -- because you can't really ''support our troops" unless you believe in what their fighting for. Sherman and Sheridan were more closely allied with the political and Grant than with the military, but those with boots on the ground follow orders. It has to be. When you read the written words of the combat officers -- Miles, Custer, Bradley, Benteen, Gibbon -- their understanding of the NDN way of life is the most accurate of the times. They respected their enemy and clearly saw the disconnect between Washington and the NDN cultures. But they were soldiers, the president's muscle. As always. I do not mean to justify any of what happened on the Washita that day. There's no way to justify any of the winning of the west. It was simply inevitable and ugly.
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Post by clw on Jun 29, 2008 18:09:04 GMT -5
In Flanders fields. Hello there, my friend! Glad you accepted the invitation.
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Post by clw on Jun 28, 2008 13:13:25 GMT -5
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