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Post by saskia21 on Sept 2, 2021 11:25:48 GMT -5
I found the name of Nahkiss' mother in the 1892 census: Naw kees man/Naw kees maw/ Naw kees waw View AttachmentSome time between the end of 1900 and the beginning of 1901 Nahkiss dies: I believe he has a sister who is also on this census between his mother and him, she was married to Skinny. 1901 census: View AttachmentNext I have found them again in the 1904 and 1905 census ( still looking for the earlier ones and later ones): View Attachment I have doubt Nakiss die in early 1900's because in San CArlos band H or Coyotero band J, a man called Nah-kess was alived. In which census did you find this Nah kess? Nakiss is alive in the 1900 census, but in the 1901 census he is listed but crossed through, which most of the time means he has died (he is listed as Nahkara but it is definately him look at names of the wife and children). Also his wife is listed as a widow in 1904/1905.
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Post by saskia21 on Sept 2, 2021 7:38:24 GMT -5
I found the name of Nahkiss' mother in the 1892 census: Naw kees man/Naw kees maw/ Naw kees waw Some time between the end of 1900 and the beginning of 1901 Nahkiss dies: I believe he has a sister who is also on this census between his mother and him, she was married to Skinny. 1901 census: Next I have found them again in the 1904 and 1905 census ( still looking for the earlier ones and later ones): Attachments:
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Post by saskia21 on Sept 1, 2021 7:13:54 GMT -5
Not sure i have seen this one posted before: Oliver Bitchaiet, Nahthletla and Jason Betzinez taken in 1894 Rainy mountain, where she visited Oliver who worked there.
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Post by saskia21 on Sept 1, 2021 2:02:59 GMT -5
You are probably right, she did have two daughters with similar names.
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Post by saskia21 on Aug 29, 2021 9:30:31 GMT -5
Could this be Ah tsi tah? From the 1893 census, Couyutero:
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Post by saskia21 on Aug 29, 2021 4:17:02 GMT -5
After this marriage she marries John logan and has children out of both marriages> Anajohe married Richard Baylish (born cir 1882) in cir. 1896 : George / Eishkiden. (born 1902) married Edna Wright (born 1912) and had at least two children: Kenneth born 1931 and Wheeler born 1935. Bertha / Eten (born 1908) ( later listed as Bertha Logan) Albert / Syeulhel (born 1912) he married Effie Stanley (born 1912) they had at least two children: Remago (born 1933) and Belinda (born 1935) She married John Logan (born 1891) 29 jun 1915: Alice born cir. 1915, Dora born cir. 1917, Perry born cir.1921- 1924, Andrew born 1924-1924, Lara born 1925, Lyda born 1927 and Monteith born 1930. As remembered yesterday, Richard was a half-brother of Eskehelte (the two living in 1904 with their parents)Coyotero tribe band F n°24. So Richard was not the husband of Anajohe, I think. See the 1911 Census: and on the same census: I stand corrected, two baylish men married to two women with very similar names....
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Post by saskia21 on Aug 29, 2021 4:01:44 GMT -5
Djanata (Julia Denton) name in the earlier census' is Yonteah / Yonstah (cir 1864) And she has three daughters: Nowloah born cir.1889 (Anajohe), Nawlesay born cir.1892 and Kaydasilahey (Ikedastlahe) born cir. 1894 also proof dat Howdetsoan = tadntudn in the last two ( 1905-1906) census' look at de number in front of the names first number is their number on this census de number that follows is the number they where on the previous census: The 1896 census: 1898 census: 1899 census: 1901 census part 1 and 2: 1905 and 1906 census:
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Post by saskia21 on Aug 29, 2021 3:13:43 GMT -5
from san carlos census in 1907, San Carlos Tribe, you will find Zanyego at n°755, single. Zanyego, daughter of Gessemida, sister of Jastessay and mother of Tah-de-tonn. In census 1914-1915, always n°39 band J Coyorero tribe, Jim Curly who change his nickname as Kelly, became Sherman Curley and Jastessay Helen Curley. Also always n°16 band H of San CArlos tribe, Tah-de-tonn became Charles Denton and Zanyego became Maria Denton. Gessemida certainly died in 1913. But juts below n°16 a widow was in n°17, named Djanate and nickname Julia Denton (like the family n°16) and Djanate was more similar to Zhante than Zanyego. So I think Djhanate was Zhante, not Zanyego. I still feel Zanye(go) and Zhante are the same person, if you pronounce zanye and zhante it lies much closer together in sound than Djanate and Zanthe, but I can't proof it. I do feel Djanate is another sister. In de 1900 federal census Gessemida is said to have had 6 children!
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Post by saskia21 on Aug 29, 2021 3:02:19 GMT -5
After this marriage she marries John logan and has children out of both marriages>
Anajohe married Richard Baylish (born cir 1882) in cir. 1896 :
George / Eishkiden. (born 1902) married Edna Wright (born 1912) and had at least two children: Kenneth born 1931 and Wheeler born 1935. Bertha / Eten (born 1908) ( later listed as Bertha Logan) Albert / Syeulhel (born 1912) he married Effie Stanley (born 1912) they had at least two children: Remago (born 1933) and Belinda (born 1935)
She married John Logan (born 1891) 29 jun 1915: Alice born cir. 1915, Dora born cir. 1917, Perry born cir.1921- 1924, Andrew born 1924-1924, Lara born 1925, Lyda born 1927 and Monteith born 1930.
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Post by saskia21 on Aug 28, 2021 4:27:22 GMT -5
Beas Ketla is definately Jim Curly, in the 1893 census he is living with his brother and he is named curly (p 70 1893 census: archive.org/details/indiancensusroll462unit/page/n69/mode/1up?view=theaterin the 1894- 1897 he is called Beasketla ( 1894 census 174: archive.org/details/indiancensusroll462unit/page/n173/mode/1up?view=theater)As to Gessemida beeing a possible sister of Nahilzay and married to Cochise i dont know. I remember reading somewhere that Nahilzay's sisters name was Nahlekadeya and she was the one married to Cochise. But i can't remember where I got that info from. May be he married sisters? I have found Gessemida/Gessemuda/ Gessemeede, born cir 1839 sporadically in de census records in 1898, 1900, 1904, 1905 she is living with her grandson Howdetsoan/Hometdoan/ Howetason born cir 1880. But after 1905 I can't find either one again. As to Nastasay beeing Jas tassy it is possible but i haven't been able to establish the link or found conclusive proof she is the right person. In 1907 census (page 218 n°39), Jim Curly was named again Baskeetlan (english name Kelly?) and Nastasay became Djaistaze. In 1906 Jim Curley and Nastasay were in the same Coyotero band (J) at the same number n°39. Djaistaze seems more similar to Jastassey than Nastasay so I conclud définitvly that Nastasay=Djaistaze=Jas-tessy = sister of Naiche. His name changes again in 1914 to James Curly (Bahuskalaon) and Helen Curly ( Daistage) it is definately them, as in 1907 as 1914 they are on the same page as James Curly's brother. I can trace them all the way to 1929 at San Carlos
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Post by saskia21 on Aug 23, 2021 2:49:17 GMT -5
Thanks to Coeurrouge, who posted a link on the western apache scouts I found this: Nahkis was inlisted from 1890 to 1893 at San Carlos, so a little earlier then I found.
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Post by saskia21 on Aug 21, 2021 13:24:01 GMT -5
I did see that but my interest lies more with genealogy of the Chiricahua, so family ties. Also the lives of the women. Glad to have been of help 😊, I believe in sharing links and information to help other people interested in the Apache people.
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Post by saskia21 on Aug 21, 2021 9:29:37 GMT -5
The nephew of Geronimo, Nahkiss: Nahkis enlisted as an Indian scout at San Carlos in: 13 June 1891 discharged 21 dec 1891 – us army register of enlistment 1798-1914 p 740 (Ancestry.com) 1 July 1892 discharged 21 dec 1892 – us army register of enlistment 1798-1914 p 741 (Ancestry.com) 5 jun 1893 discharged 4 dec 1893 – us army register of enlistment 1798-1914 p742 (Ancestry.com) 6 dec 1893 discharged may 1894 – us army register of enlistment 1798-1914 p743(Ancestry.com) 1893 Census San Carlos: • Nakees head 28 (cir 1865) • Natlaydintlah wife 19 (cir 1974) • Ancestry: 1893 San Carlos, Coyotero,, page 84 , numbers 1130-1131 Free census: 1893 San Carlos ,Coyotero, page91, numbers 1130-1131 archive.org/details/indiancensusroll462unit/page/n90/mode/1up?view=theater1896 San Carlos census Nahkiss: • Nawkees 31 (cir 1865) • Nawtayduitah wife 22 (cir 1874) • Son 1 (cir 1895) Ancestry: 1896 San Carlos, Coyotero,, page 585 , numbers 1014-1016 Free census: 1896 San Carlos ,Coyotero, page 616 numbers 1014 -1016 archive.org/details/indiancensusroll462unit/page/n615/mode/1up?view=theater1898 Census San Carlos Apache Nakiss: • Nawkiss male 33 ( cir 1865) • Nawtlay dintah female wife 24 ( cir 1874) • ? male son 3 (cir 1895) Ancestry: 1898 San Carlos, Apache, page 214 , numbers 796-798 Free census: 1898 San Carlos, Apache, page227 , numbers 796-798 archive.org/details/indiancensusroll463unit/page/n226/mode/1up?view=theater1899 Census San Carlos Nahkiss: • Nawkees 34 • Nawtlaudintlah wife 25 • Daughter 1 Ancestry: 1899 San Carlos, Apache, page 331 , number 960-962 Free census: 1899 San Carlos, Apache 347, page, numbers 960-962 archive.org/details/indiancensusroll463unit/page/n346/mode/1up?view=theaterHavent been able to find them yet after 1899.
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Post by saskia21 on Aug 20, 2021 15:27:28 GMT -5
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Post by saskia21 on Aug 20, 2021 4:18:42 GMT -5
How interesting are there any more birth registers for this familie?
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