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Post by John on Jun 5, 2010 15:01:54 GMT -5
I would be very grateful if anyone could provide some information about Swift Dog ( Sunka Luzahan ), Hunkpapa Lakota. Have not found any details of his life so far.
If you have, please let me know.
John Groeneveld
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Post by John on Jun 3, 2010 13:11:59 GMT -5
Hi Ladonna, thank you for your time and advice, and also for your help into this very important issue.
I am most grateful, John Groeneveld The Netherlands Europe
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Post by John on Jun 3, 2010 13:00:37 GMT -5
Hi ftpeckpabaksa, I have read with interest what you have said !!! I am profoundly touched with regards to cultural theft. I am deeply indebted to you for your comments and criticisms. I understand you don't represents all Native Americans, but you speaks for "your people" and I respect that Native Americans wants to protect their beautiful culture. Of course, I despise too, how non-Natives commercialize Native traditions and certainly would be glad to see them protected. Therefor I updated my website ( see message to this board from John to Ladonna, Yesterday at 3:40pm ).
Thanks again, John Groeneveld The Netherlands Europe
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Post by John on Jun 2, 2010 16:40:01 GMT -5
Hi Ladonna, thanks for telling me this. Would you take a look for me onto my website www.plainsindians.nl. I have just updated my English homepage and all english shield pages with the new words: " made and painted by John Groeneveld non-Native american " " I am a non-Native american and my art is not native " " all replicas you find on this website are not for sale ". Is this correct ?. Give me please your opinion? John
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Post by John on May 29, 2010 11:11:29 GMT -5
Hi ftpeckpabaksa, I am a bit late but I would like to thank you for your comments into this very important issue ( cultural theft ). I'm just glad these issue are being discussed. It's a pity that so few Native americans react on this forum !!!!. There have been only 2 posts and 182 views. Do you have an explanation for that ?. I'm non-native, but I am always been intrigued by native life and traditions. My website is an educational presentation and my replica's are not for sale !!!. The intent of my website is to honor a proud and noble people, the Native American People and I present on this website the culture that makes them unique. When I first began making replicas of traditional shields of the Native American People of the Plains, I didn't know what's the feeling of the Native Americans about my artworks. For me, music, language and art, is very sacred, and should be done in a respectful way. I don't claim to be an expert, just being respectful to the Native Americans. Now, I understand that some of the Native Americans feel that when non-Natives take their traditions and try to replicate them, they are offending their culture and the meaning of those traditions. I had not seen it from this point of view before. But, I learned a lot, which is the most important thing. Therefor, I will stop making replica's of Native American shields very soon, and all my shields will be removed from my website. Dear ftpeckpabaksa, it bothers me that you think that someone who is non-Native, or is part Native ( look's White ), is making a mockery of the Native American ways. I do not believe this is the case. I think that they are honest, and have a good heart. If we believe this, then they should be commended. It can only bring our races closer together. I believe all cultures have something to offer the world. I would like to say that beyond our cultures, we are all human beings. The Native Americans certainly has many great and beautiful teachings. If I were a Native American I would be proud of it !!!!. Best regards John Groeneveld The Netherlands Europe www.plainsindians.nl
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Post by John on May 22, 2010 13:37:24 GMT -5
Hi Ladonna, I am really glad you answered my question about cultural theft !!! I wanted to say that I am agree with the fact that too many non-native people are trying to take what does not belong to them. But, it has never been my wish to "steal" your culture. Not only did I create this website and shields for myself, but I designed it to be informative and educational to all the people who support the Native American beliefs and traditions. I make my replicas completely in humble respect to the Native Americans. Dear Ladonna, what's your advice ? Telling myself to stop making shields and information onto my website ?
John
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Post by John on May 18, 2010 15:48:42 GMT -5
Hi, my name is John Groeneveld, born in 1943 at Rotterdam, the Netherlands. Since my youth I am interested and fascinated by the lifestyle of the North-American Natives of the Plains. I wanted to express the sympathy and respect that I have for these very special people, therefore I created warshields, medicineshields, and ghostdanceshields myself. I have a very interesting question !!! I would really like to know what the Native Americans are thinking about my work, the making of replicas of old traditional ( Plains ) shields ? Can this be considered cultural theft? My website www.plainsindians.nl is an educational presentation in no way intended to exploit the Plains people, their culture, or their traditional beliefs. I appreciate your comments. John
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Post by John on May 16, 2010 14:17:38 GMT -5
Hi Ann, thanks for your kind words regarding my website. I am glad you enjoyed the shields, and information.
Best wishes, John
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Post by John on May 11, 2010 15:13:20 GMT -5
Hello Jeroen, I would just like to say good evening to you. It is so nice to see you here !!!
There are four Dutch members, I see.
What a great site, very informative !!!. They have done a great job. I'm so impressed to have read so many wonderful comments from everyone on this website.
I hope to see you soon, John
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