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Post by happyjack on Aug 24, 2017 23:29:21 GMT -5
I have had three encounters with smugglers in the Chricahuas. If they see me, I just shrug my shoulders, turn my back and go about my business. If they don't see me, I wait until they are out of sight and go about what I was doing. I don't reach for my cell phone, nor my camera, nor act excited in any way. I just ignore until they are gone. One time they ran up and over a mountain like deer. They were very athletic.
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Post by happyjack on Aug 24, 2017 23:13:50 GMT -5
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Post by happyjack on Aug 24, 2017 22:25:13 GMT -5
He also appears in the group photo on the ridge
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Post by happyjack on Oct 1, 2013 0:02:12 GMT -5
Several years ago I attended a lecture in Tucson given by archeologist Deni Seymour. According to her she has identified a camp in the Dragoon mountains as being in the 1450 period. I am going by memory so I hope I am not giving the wrong date. She stated that she had found that the Chokonen group used a distinct hide piercer that allowed her to id sites used by that group. She further stated that after she had noted this tool, she was able to reconsider other previously known sites where this tool had been found. This has led her to claim that unlike other groups such as the Mescaleros, the Chokonen group came down through the Rocky Mountains rather than the plains as previously thought. Researchers have always believed that they ended up in southern Arizona after having been pushed out by more powerful tribes such as the Comanchees. I think it was one of Eve Ball's books where her informant stated to the effect that writers often referred to them as "desert people" when they always had known they were "mountain people." Again, this is from my memory and I hope I have provided accuracy in what I write. In my mind it is significant that after such a long journey they chose this area of Apacheria to live life.
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Post by happyjack on Sept 30, 2013 23:33:27 GMT -5
Thanks for the reply.
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Post by happyjack on Sept 28, 2013 22:10:22 GMT -5
I live near the Dragoons in southern Az. A friend of mine from the Chiricahua Nation was walking about those mountains. He found a disc with faded paint. I can't remember what it was made of. He asked elders what it was. He was told in the old old days these were worn to show which sub group of a tribe that person was from. In the CS Fly photos Geronimo wears similar, discs on his coat. Geronimos were a sort of modernized version more as decoration than as an identifying tool. The reason I mention this is because one of the Chiricahua characters in Ulzanahs Raid is wearing a pair of beaded identifiers. I think it is really obscure but interesting none the less.
In The Missing, Tommy Lee Jones character is shown cooking and eating fish. Not very traditional for someone raised in that culture.
A definitive movie about Chiricahuas has yet to be made.
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