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Post by rodthomas on May 5, 2016 22:06:23 GMT -5
Sorry, grabbed the wrong file...this is the comparison document. tipi comparison.pdf (1.61 MB) Regards, Rod...
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Post by jones on May 6, 2016 17:31:43 GMT -5
<< Tipi in question attributed to White Swan was actually a Blackfoot man's. >> -rodthomas W.S. Campbell was in disagreement with Catlin as to the ornamentation on the Crow tipi, but Maximilian, who visited the same tribes shortly after Catlin, seems to agree with Catlin. The greatest difference in opinion between Catlin and Maximilian is in the longevity of the tipi. Catlin believed they could last 100 years, but Maximilian said one year. The tipi becoming "transparent, like parchment" is of interest. The link to Campbell's piece, which gives extensive construction details, should work this time. onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1525/aa.1927.29.1.02a00060/pdfThe Tipis Of The Crow Indians By Walter Stanley Campbell Page 101: In the realistic ornamentation of their tents they are distinctly inferior to the Blackfoot. Page 103: The beauty of the Crow tipi lies not in superficial ornamentation, but in its impressive size and admirable proportions, the great length of the soaring poles, the graceful curve of the flap-poles above the smoke hole. books.google.com/books?id=oCZPAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA250&lpg=PA250#v=onepage&q&f=trueTravels in the Interior of North America By Maximilian, Prince of Wied "The leather tents of the Blackfeet, their internal arrangement, and the manner of loading their dogs and horses, agree, in every respect, with those of the Sioux and Assiniboins, and all the wandering tribes of hunters of the upper Missouri. The tents, made of tanned buffalo skin, last only for one year; they are, at first, neat and white, afterwards brownish, and at the top, where the smoke issues, black, and, at last, transparent, like parchment, and very light inside. Painted tents, adorned with figures, are very seldom seen, and only a few chiefs possess them."
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Post by rawhide on May 7, 2016 8:18:37 GMT -5
Just a quick note. As I have understood, painted tipis could be any given years old. One just had to replace the covering ever so often, and naturally paint it anew. It means they could both be right in this sense. If one bought a tipi he could paint it to his own cover for instance and I guess the seller couldn't not use the old cover anymore. I'm not sure if the different languages had different words for the two kinds ideas but I guess there are people here that can contribute to that. Rawhide
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Post by dedelen171 on Nov 16, 2018 14:37:07 GMT -5
If you're just interested in the book because of the photographs Henry Sharp took on the Crow Reservation, I can scan them for you and attach to my posts (who will move them to the appropriate folder?). So here's a scan of that group in Sheridan; I cropped most of the ground and sky and reduced file size but left the image size as big as possible. However, if you're interested in J.H. Sharp and his art as well, I'd really recommend buying the Fenn book. Hello Tipifan, We recently found out my daughter in law's ggg grandpa was Michel "Mitch" Bouyer, a Crow scout and interpreter for Col Custer and died with him at the Little Big Horn. He was half French Canadian and half Santee Sioux and married a Crow woman named Magpie Outside and lived with her people on the Crow reservation in Montana. His father was killed by the Sioux in 1863 and was adopted by the Crow Tribe there. I would love to see pics of the Crows and their reservation during the 1860s and 1870s. I have a pic supposedly him but on another thread here someone was saying that pics were not Mitch Bouyer (Crow name was Kar-Pash) but a Ute Indian. He showed evidently proof . But I would love to see any pics of Crows of his generation and that time period on the reservation, their homes, the way they dressed and lived. Thanks,
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