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Post by jinlian on Aug 27, 2009 4:10:37 GMT -5
Hi Tipifan, thank you very much for the wonderful photograph, it's much appreciated - I recognize Medicine Crow, Wet, Old Dog, Curley and Gray Bull... I think I'll purchase the book - more than 100 plates with Sharp's paintings are worth indeed, even at a high price. I love Sharp's Indian portraits and, together with some fellow members, have posted more than one in this same board. I know only a few of his Taos paintings, and I guess this would be a good chance to broaden my knowledge. Thanks again
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Post by jinlian on Oct 1, 2009 4:53:16 GMT -5
tipifan, in case you haven't already seen it. Two drawings of White Man Runs Him's tipi (from White Man Runs Him by D. Harcey and B. R. Croone)
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Post by tipifan on Nov 3, 2009 9:03:19 GMT -5
Another tipi photo from Petzoldt Collection. Another??? Look close! ;D Attachments:
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Post by jinlian on Nov 4, 2009 12:22:23 GMT -5
Speaking of tipis, here's a detail of a (so-labeled) Crow tipi: it's just me or the painting on the tipi hide looks very similar to that of the Blackfoot tipi in the first page (even if there are only horses and no standing human figures)?
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Post by tipifan on Nov 6, 2009 18:07:52 GMT -5
Jinlian, this is definitely a Crow tipi, the attached Throssel photograph bears this out quite neatly. The pictographs could be by White Swan -- I'm not an expert in this field ... I'm more into tipis! Attachments:
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Post by tipifan on Nov 6, 2009 18:19:37 GMT -5
A closer view of that same tipi, Richard Throssel Attachments:
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Post by tipifan on Nov 6, 2009 18:21:15 GMT -5
And still another view, also photographed by Throssel Attachments:
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Post by jinlian on Nov 7, 2009 8:03:53 GMT -5
Thanks, Tipifan...the pictographs' style looks certainly similar to White Swan's, I'll do some a comparison with WS 'drawings later.
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Post by jinlian on Nov 7, 2009 9:38:14 GMT -5
Here it is: (right: tipi detail. Left: a White Swan painting of the LBH) Even if pictographs look similar, there's something that doesn't look 100% right to me...maybe it's just the difference in material and painting technique? Other opinions?
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Post by jinlian on Jan 3, 2010 6:15:00 GMT -5
Tipis at Crow Agency, 1895 - detail from a photographs by P. Prando, S.J. Attachments:
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Post by rodthomas on Jun 2, 2015 16:17:20 GMT -5
As I put together "answers to enigmas" for White Swan's bio, I'll add some things such as this comparison of the tipi identified as White Swan's in Riebeth's book and whose tipi it really was. The photo may in fact be Sharp's but the tipi is Blackfoot. tipi comparison.pdf (1.61 MB) Regards, Rod...
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Post by grahamew on Jun 3, 2015 3:04:29 GMT -5
Drawing style looks more Blackfoot than Crow, I have to admit.
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Post by dT on Jun 22, 2015 13:01:06 GMT -5
thanks for reproducing and displaying the photo here. That is a wonderful picture. As is so often the case - I find myself wishing that these photographers had taken hundreds of pictures of daily life. If you can show a few more photos by Sharp - that would be terrific.
dT
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Post by jones on May 5, 2016 15:19:27 GMT -5
Letters and Notes on the Manners, Customs, and Conditions of North American Indians by George Catlin Letter # 7 The Crows, of all the tribes in this region, or on the Continent, make the most beautiful lodge. As I have before mentioned, they construct them as the Sioux do, and make them of the same material; yet they oftentimes dress the skins of which they are composed almost as white as linen, and beautifully garnish them with porcupine quills, and paint and ornament them in such a variety of ways, as renders them exceedingly picturesque and agreeable to the eye. I have procured a very beautiful one of this description, highly-ornamented, and fringed with scalp-locks, and sufficiently large for forty men to dine under. The poles which support it are about thirty in number, of pine, and all cut in the Rocky Mountains, having been some hundred years, perhaps, in use. This tent, when erected, is about twenty-five feet high, and has a very pleasing effect; with the Great or Good Spirit painted on one side, and the Evil Spirit on the other. If I can ever succeed in transporting it to New York and other eastern cities, it will be looked upon as a beautiful and exceedingly interesting specimen. Image americanart.si.edu/images/1985/1985.66.491_1a.jpgCrow Lodge of Twenty-five Buffalo Skins 1832-1833 George Catlin ...... Crow tipi construction details linked below onlinelibrary.wiley.com/store/10.1525/aa.1927.29.1.02a00060/asset/aa.1927.29.1.02a00060.pdf?v=1&t=inupsl82&s=37aa92cf67e02d2408907f6530aed2950ff8ebb5 Indeed, the Crow Tipis are remarkable for the extraordinary length of their poles.
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Post by rodthomas on May 5, 2016 21:59:09 GMT -5
I placed this on another thread but thought I should also post here. Tipi in question attributed to White Swan was actually a Blackfoot man's. I discuss this more fully in the White Swan biography. Regards, Rod...
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