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[kingsleybray]

Can anyone help me locate online or elsewhere a copy of the following article?:

Donald C. Jackson, ed., 'Journey to the Mandans, 1809: The Lost Narrative of Dr. Thomas', Bulletin of the Missouri Historical Society Vol. 20 (1964) : pages 179-92.

[Dietmar]

Sorry Kingsley,

I haven´t found the article nor the magazine online.

Best
Dietmar

[chicheman]

Hello Kingsley,

I just noticed your request.I do not have that Narrative / Bulletin, but I do have some excerpt of
this in that recently published book about the Mandan, "Enounters at the heart of the world" ( by
Elizabeth A. Fenn, 2014). It deals mainly about differences that occured between the Mandan and Hidatsa
in 1809, telling about the Meeting of the Mandan and Hidatsa at Big Hidatsa Village that year.
If this is of any use for you, just let me know please.
Maybe it might also be possible to contact the author, Mrs. Elizabeth A. Fenn ? As she seemingly had access to the said "Lost Narrative of Dr. Thomas" ? Just my idea. Let me know if I can be of any help . Best from Germany

[kingsleybray]

thanks guys, guess this is one I'm going to have to track down hard copy. Fenn's is a very fine book on Mandan history, recommended to all. In a citation in another book, Tracy Potter's Sheheke, Mandan Indian Diplomat (Farcountry Press, Helena, MT, 2003), I came upon details from Dr Thomas's journal that shed new light on Lakota reactions to US diplomacy with the Arikaras and Mandans in 1809. So I wanted to get to the source.

The Potter book also comes highly recommended. A rewarding telling of a Mandan life. I bumped into the author at Standing Rock in 2014.

[chicheman]

Always welcome, Kingsley. This Dr. Thomas Journal sounds most interesting. Hope you can track it down. I will Keep my eyes open as well.
Thanks to you for the hint with the Tracy Potter book, a book for the wish list definitely.

[jones]

This what you're looking for?
This actually pertains to some mysterious 1809 initials carved in stone in my family's pasture, so I've read it several times.
user.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/html/thomintr.html
William H. Thomas was the surgeon to the Missouri Fur Company's party, that, in 1809, ascended the Missouri River to the Mandan Villages.

[jones]

Kingsleybray
That website is a wealth of primary source materials. 
user.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/
If you haven't already, you might want to read Thomas James's Three Years Among the Indians and Mexicans
"The Missouri Fur Company had just been formed, and they projected an expedition up the Missouri and to the Rocky Mountains, which was to start in the spring of the following year, 1809."
user.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/html/james/jamesint.html

You probably know that Big White & his wife got held up in St. Louis for several months before they could get back home.
The purpose for their visit with Thomas Jefferson in Washington was so Jefferson could see them in person because he was intrigued by the Welsh-Indian legend. William Clark was a believer.
Saint-Memin sketched their portraits when they were in Washington.

Big White (Sha-ha-ka)
emuseum.nyhistory.org/view/objects/asitem/People@5623/6/title-asc;jsessionid=82A256C90755722A4670BB63DCDEF83C?t:state:flow=6ef88dc2-8d33-4bbd-8890-1ad28683ae05

emuseum.nyhistory.org/media/view/Objects/15145/8867?t:state:flow=413e8b4f-59cb-4e1c-8899-2ea4dd29288f

Big White's wife Yellow Corn
emuseum.nyhistory.org/view/objects/asitem/People@5623/14/title-asc?t:state:flow=23bafb80-dda1-4db9-9ecf-1e97fe271b63

emuseum.nyhistory.org/media/view/Objects/14104/33081?t:state:flow=504f7d95-c3f9-4409-b971-51a4ad8392fe

[kingsleybray]

very appreciative of the link, jones, that's exactly what I wanted.