Post by ephriam on Oct 9, 2013 14:20:34 GMT -5
Kingsley gave a great presentation this past week at the Lakota History conference in Rapid City on the Kiyaksa/Kiyuksa tribal circle. It inspired me to go back to my notes that I have been collecting to match up what he presented with my own research on the 1890 Pine Ridge Agency census. One of the small groups within the Kiyuksa was known in early twentieth century as the Thunder Bull community.
In an earlier post, Wendall Smoke noted that one of the sons of Bull Bear was a man named Thunder Bull. According to John Long Bull (c1858-1940), in the Donald Collier interview, Thunder Bull was the son of a Sans Arc named Buffalo Bear (not to be confused with the Oglala Bull Bear) who married a sister of Little Wound, Bull Bear and others and came to live among the Kiyuksa by the 1860s.
Charles Thunder Bull (c1849-c1914) later became leader of a small community in the Medicine Root District listed in the 1890 census as the Lakota tiyospaye and includes among its members two of Charles' "brothers": Little Chief (born c1860) and Young Bull Bear (b. c1856). On the Pine Ridge map of reservation tiyospaye, this group is listed as the Thunder Bull Community.
Charles Thunder Bull served as an Indian scout at the Red Cloud Agency in 1876-78 (his wife later received a pension for that service). He may have served as First Sergeant in one of the Army's experimental Indian companies during the early 1890s. By 1900, he had a position with the Indian police on the reservation. He was married three times. His second wife, Twin, later married Robert Standing Cloud. His third and final wife was named Walks (Mani) or Annie Thunder Bull (c1851-1930).
Charles Thunder Bull's son, Shield, attended Carlisle. His grandson (Shield's son), Vincient Thunder Bull, served on the tribal council representing Allen, SD.
The Lakota band as listed in the 1890 Pine Ridge Agency census also includes another family grouping, that of Big Head (=Big Brains, an earlier shirtwearer) and his brother Spotted Horse. There is a younger man named Wounded Head, probably the son of another brother by the same name. This would suggest that the Lakota band of 1890 was an amalgamation drawn from the earlier Kuinyan and Kiyuksa bands.
It is interesting to see how many of the southern Oglala tiyospaye trace their core family group to the Bull Bear clan. Anyone know more details about the Thunder Bull family? I have a genealogy chart for the twentieth century descendants but am still looking for more about the nineteenth century relatives. Thanks!
ephriam
In an earlier post, Wendall Smoke noted that one of the sons of Bull Bear was a man named Thunder Bull. According to John Long Bull (c1858-1940), in the Donald Collier interview, Thunder Bull was the son of a Sans Arc named Buffalo Bear (not to be confused with the Oglala Bull Bear) who married a sister of Little Wound, Bull Bear and others and came to live among the Kiyuksa by the 1860s.
Charles Thunder Bull (c1849-c1914) later became leader of a small community in the Medicine Root District listed in the 1890 census as the Lakota tiyospaye and includes among its members two of Charles' "brothers": Little Chief (born c1860) and Young Bull Bear (b. c1856). On the Pine Ridge map of reservation tiyospaye, this group is listed as the Thunder Bull Community.
Charles Thunder Bull served as an Indian scout at the Red Cloud Agency in 1876-78 (his wife later received a pension for that service). He may have served as First Sergeant in one of the Army's experimental Indian companies during the early 1890s. By 1900, he had a position with the Indian police on the reservation. He was married three times. His second wife, Twin, later married Robert Standing Cloud. His third and final wife was named Walks (Mani) or Annie Thunder Bull (c1851-1930).
Charles Thunder Bull's son, Shield, attended Carlisle. His grandson (Shield's son), Vincient Thunder Bull, served on the tribal council representing Allen, SD.
The Lakota band as listed in the 1890 Pine Ridge Agency census also includes another family grouping, that of Big Head (=Big Brains, an earlier shirtwearer) and his brother Spotted Horse. There is a younger man named Wounded Head, probably the son of another brother by the same name. This would suggest that the Lakota band of 1890 was an amalgamation drawn from the earlier Kuinyan and Kiyuksa bands.
It is interesting to see how many of the southern Oglala tiyospaye trace their core family group to the Bull Bear clan. Anyone know more details about the Thunder Bull family? I have a genealogy chart for the twentieth century descendants but am still looking for more about the nineteenth century relatives. Thanks!
ephriam
