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Post by dT on Aug 31, 2013 15:50:25 GMT -5
greetings.
I am looking for information on two Chiricahua women, and I'm really hoping that someone knows something about them. all replies are very welcome! I am helping a friend with this request.
The first woman is Nahn-isl-Klah, maybe also called Nes-Chila (but I'm not sure about that). I think she was a wife of Jolsanny.
The second woman is Tah-tzil-Toey. I believe she was born in 1864, or close to that time. Maybe she was a wife of Fun, but again I am not sure about that detail.
If anyone can help to explain the relatives and children of these women, it would be very much appreciated.
thanks,
dT
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Post by naiches2 on Sept 1, 2013 3:21:22 GMT -5
Info from my list:
Nahn-ish-klah or Ah-nesh-clah
1860 – Nov 1, 1907 Ft. Sill
Husband: Jolsanne/Ulzana (1844 – 1909) - brother of Chihuahua
Children: Pel-coy Thomas (1871 – 1896)
Jolsanny Richard (Feb 16, 1898 – June 1, 1971) - husband of Clara Negro (1901 – Oct 5, 1936, divorced 1933) and Mary Carilla (1903 – post 1936, Mescalero)
Samuel Grayson (1903 – Jan 8, 1926)
Adam (1877 – 1898) - step-son, son of Nah-zis-eh
William (1887 – 1900) - step-son, son of Nah-zis-eh
Clarence/Peter? (1893 – 1911) - step-son, son of Nah-zis-eh
Wally (d.1903) - step-son, son of Nah-zis-eh
Karl (1892 – post 1900) ?
Eliza (1898 – post 1900) ?
Siblings: Tah-da-ste/Dahteste (1860 – abt.1936) - sister. Wife of Ahnandia and Coonie
Ilth-gozey (1854 –1918) - sister ? Wife of Chihuahua
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Post by naiches2 on Sept 1, 2013 3:25:58 GMT -5
Tah-tzil-toey (1864/70 – 1905 Ft. Sill) was wife of Fun and after his death she was wife of Lawrence Mithlo. She was sister of Jose Second, perhaps (!)
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Post by dT on Sept 1, 2013 10:21:27 GMT -5
Thank you Naiches2. You are doing a great job!!!
dT
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Post by naiches2 on Sept 1, 2013 14:41:46 GMT -5
Thank you Naiches2. You are doing a great job!!! dT You are welcome! I was working about three years at List 500 and BOOM - Alicia Delgadillo published book about theme and I'm drop  Too many new info. And some mistakes also. |
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Post by dT on Sept 2, 2013 14:26:02 GMT -5
ok ... I am just trying to put together the lineage here - the family tree. I think Naiches2 that you can probably understand that this is difficult. sometimes the dates at which people are reported to have lived, or been born, do not all completely match up. I am not saying that your efforts are bad in any way. I think it is just hard to get the complete facts when information is scarce, that's all.
1. Do you think that Tah-tzil-toey is the sister to Jose Second? Do we know the brothers and sisters of Jose Second?
2. Have you heard of Nah-Zis-Eh? I think she was Jolsanny's first wife. But again I am not sure of that, and the names of her children.
3. It has been hard to understand the timing of the life of Nechila (or Neschila). She is said to have been born in 1860, and maybe she was Jose Second's aunt. But I think that Jose Second was born around 1850. So these dates seem to be impossible. Either Neschila was born much earlier, or Jose Second was born later, or I am just confused about this woman Neschila.
Once again, your help and facts are very much appreciated :-)
dT
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Post by naiches2 on Sept 7, 2013 3:16:29 GMT -5
ok ... I am just trying to put together the lineage here - the family tree. I think Naiches2 that you can probably understand that this is difficult. sometimes the dates at which people are reported to have lived, or been born, do not all completely match up. I am not saying that your efforts are bad in any way. I think it is just hard to get the complete facts when information is scarce, that's all. 1. Do you think that Tah-tzil-toey is the sister to Jose Second? Do we know the brothers and sisters of Jose Second? 2. Have you heard of Nah-Zis-Eh? I think she was Jolsanny's first wife. But again I am not sure of that, and the names of her children. dT info 100 % ! |
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Too many new info. And some mistakes also.