Crow Dog

[Dietmar]

Crow Dog



I´d like to start a thread about Crow Dog, who is well known for his role in the killing of Sicangu Chief Spotted Tail. Crow Dog was a leader in the Brule Orphan Band, the Wablenicha. He was related to other leading Orphan clans like the Iron Shells.

Most of what I know about Crow Dog is from “Crow Dog – Four generations of Sioux Medicine Men” by Leonard Crow Dog & Richard Erdoes, Harper&Collins, 1995, a book I highly recommend:

“Old man Crow Dog, the first of that name, was a buffalo hunter. He knew the ways of the buffalo and of the animals in the forest. He was born in 1836 and died in 1912. A government paper says he was born earlier, in 1832. Maybe so. Before he took the name Crow Dog he had six other names. One of them was Mato Sicha, Bad Bear. “ (page 11)

According to Leonard, Crow Dog took the name Kangi Shunka Manitou after his first fight with enemies. It means Crow Coyote, not Crow Dog, but an interpreter translated it wrongly and the name stuck.
Later at the reservation a census taker gave him the Christian name Jerome, so he´s also known as Jerome Crow Dog in official records.

Leonard writes that Crow Dog had two wives. One was Catches Her. A second wife was called Jumping Elk, a Blackfoot woman.
His genealogy remains fragmentary. There´s no mention of Crow Dogs parents. He had two brothers, Brave Bull and a half-brother named Yellow Horse. His cousins include Spotted Tail.
Crow Dog was a nephew of Conquering Bear, the famous Wahazha leader killed in 1854.

Do we know anything more about him?


Here are some portraits of Crow Dog:


Crow Dog in Washington 1875 (edited from a delegation group poto)


Crow Dog 1891


Crow Dog by John A. Anderson


Crow Dog by John A. Anderson


Crow Dog & his wife Catches Her (according to Leonard Crow Dog)


Crow Dog 1907 by Edward Curtis


Crow Dog 1898


Crow Dog´s family


Two Strikes, High Hawk and Crow Dog 1891

[kingsleybray]

I have a letter from John Colhoff, or White Man Stands in Sight, the Pine Ridge interpreter, dated Dec. 31, 1949, to my late friend Joseph Balmer, of Zurich, Switzerland, which mentions some of Crow Dog's family connections.

"Kangi Sunka, Crow Dog was the chief who shot and killed Spotted Tail at Rosebud Agency, South Dakota, in August 1881 . . . He was an Oglala but was married to a Rosebud woman, he was related to the famous U.S. [Army] scout Yellow Horse of Herrick, S.D. The Red Willows of Wanbli, S.D. As you know, Yellow Horse was married to one of Red Cloud's daughters [his] No. 1 wife. [Yellow Horse's] No. 2 wife was also Oglala woman, No. 3 was a Rosebud woman. Yellow Bear, Mato gi, the chief of the Spleen band, killed by John Richards, or Reshaw on the North Platte [in 1872] was also a cousin of Crow Dog."

John Colhoff told anthropologist William K. Powers that the Red Willow band at Pine Ridge was "originally a part of the Spleen band."

So Crow Dog was bon an Oglala, according to Colhoff, with connections to the Spleen band of that tribe. He was related as a "nephew" to Scattering Bear, of the Brule Wazhazha band. Since Scattering Bear and Spotted Tail were related, perhaps as cousins, Crow Dog may have been 'nephew' to Spotted Tail as well. An interesting dynamic. He was also related to the Iron Shell family. Victor Douville told me that Crow Dog and Iron Shell were related to each other as cousins or brothers-in-law, he wasn't sure which.

So-o-o-o, while inviting more feedback from relatives, it looks like one of Crow Dog's parents was an Oglala of the Spleen band, possibly a sibling of the chief Black Hawk ('father' to Yellow Bear); and his other parent was a Brule (Wazhazha?), a sibling/cousin to Scattering Bear. Born c. 1832, he lived in adulthood in the Brule Orphan band of chief Iron Shell, perhaps reflecting his marriage. By 1875 he was recognized as one of the head akichita in the Upper Brule tribe.

[kingsleybray]

Haha. Antoine Bordeaux told Walter Camp (in Camp Papers, University of Indiana, microfilm ed.) that Iron Shell's "brothers" were Dog Hawk, Crow Dog, Bell Snake, Moccasin Face, and Brave Bull.

Dog Hawk was the headman of another extended family group within the Orphan band.

Bell Snake and Moccasin Face: no more information known to me.

Crow Dog and Brave Bull - noted as brothers by Dietmar above from family information.

What I would say is that Crow Dog and Brave Bull were unlikely to have been full brothers - in the European sense - to Iron Shell. They were more likely to be classificatory brothers, for instance sons of Iron Shell's father's brother or his mother's sister. But this would fit Victor Douville's suggestion of a 'cousin' (European sense) connection btw Crow Dog and Iron Shell.

[grahamew]

The artist DeCost Smith, seeing Crow Dog in 1884, noted he was an affable man who tried to use a few English words in his conversation. He "habitually wore a six-shooter on his right hip... There was nothing Indian about his dress, which consisted of a soft black hat, black shirt and dark trousers tucked into high-heeled cowboy boots... He had a thin beard, and his hair which hing loose just below his ears was curly, an unusual thing in an Indian."

He goes on to say that when he met him again, some 18 years later, he wore his hair "long in the Indian fashion... His face was beardless; he wore blanket, leggings and moccasins, and he did not attempt any English.


Another photo - taken at the same time as the last one Dietmar posted above.

[Dietmar]

In Leonard Crow Dog´s book it is stated that Henry CD´s great-grandfather on his mother´s side was Nahca Cica, Little Chief. If I got it right he then was the father of Crow Dog´s wife, possibly Catches Her.
Was there a Little Chief in the Iron Shell family?


More portraits of Crow Dog:


Crow Dog in 1894 (edited from a group photo)


Buffalo Bill & Crow Dog 1891 (edited from a group photo)

[miller7513]

Some info on Crow Dog, Long Chin, Red Leaf, Brave Bear, Hollow Horn Bear, Dog Hawk and Little Chief

1 Long Chin born 1806 in Brule Sioux. He married unknown.
2 Brave Bear born 1809 in Oglala Sioux Nation; died 19 Aug 1854 in Ft Laramie, Wyoming. He married (1st) Four Times (2nd) Returns Last
3 Red Leaf, born 1812 He married (1st) Spotted Tail Sister (Long Woman); (2nd) Fight All The Time
4 Spotted Elk Brule Sioux

1 Long Chin Oglala, born 1806 in Brule Sioux. He married unknown.
Children of Long Chin were as follows:
(1) Crow Dog, born 1833 Oglala Sioux ; died 1912 in Rosebud Sioux Reservation. He married (1st) Good Home; (2nd) Cook Her; (3rd) Jumping Elk
(2) Dog Hawk, born 1839 Oglala Lakota Sioux. He married (1st) Nation; (2nd) Little Elk

2 Brave Bear Oglala born 1809 in Oglala Sioux; died 19 Aug 1854 in Ft Laramie, Wyoming. He married (1st) Four Times born in Oglala Sioux, daughter of Red Cloud and Northern Cheyenne Woman; (2nd) Returns Last, daughter of Red Cloud and Northern Cheyenne Woman.

Notes for Brave Bear (---)
Bear That Scatters-Scattering Bear wife ?----That speaks
Bear Runs Fearless was Red Cloud’s brother-in-law
The appointment of Brave Bear as head Chief must have been very important to Spotted Tail for Brave Bear was his cousin, presumably on his mother’s side, pg 55 Spotted Tail's Folk
Also on pg 67-68 Red Leaf his brother and Long Chin, his half-brother
Also on pg 316 Spotted Tail's Folk-related to Iron Shell-and pg 313 a nephew, Crow Dog
James R. Walker. Translated by Ella Deloria

Children of Brave Bear and Four Times were as follows:
(1) Afraid Of Bear, born 1841 in Oglala Sioux; died 9 Jan 1913 in Pine Ridge, Shannon, South Dakota. He married (1st) Eagle; (2nd) Moves Lodge.
(2 ) George Sword, born 1847 in Oglala Lakota; died 18 Nov 1910 in Pine Ridge, Shannon, South Dakota. He married Lucy Ann (Different Eagle) Sword.
(3) Poor Dog, died 1876 in Oglala Lakota Nation.
(4) White Calf, born in Oglala Lakota Nation.

Children of Brave Bear and Returns Last were as follows:
(5) Fast Horse, born in Oglala Lakota Nation.
(6) Beautiful Snake Woman, born in Oglala Lakota Nation. Notes: Bell Snake
(7) Bad Nostrils born in Oglala Lakota Nation.
(8) Bear Runs Fearless, born in Oglala Lakota Nation.

3. Red Leaf Oglala, born 1812 in Oglala Sioux Nation. He married (1st) Spotted Tail Sister (Long Woman) born Sicangu Brule, daughter of Tangle Hair and Walks With Pipe; (2nd) Fight All The Time.

Notes for Red Leaf
Crazy Horse Surrender Ledger
Pg 39 2-1-1-2 Wahzahzah
Pg 73 4-4-1-3 Wahzahzah Red Leaf with him Red Leaf Jr Pretty Yellow Fox, Little Tail
Pg 125 Red Leaf 5 in family-Hair Pipe 6 in family-Different Tail 6 in family-Goes Out Bad 7 in family-Sleeps 5 in family-One Who Kills Bear 3 in family
Pg 143 ration tickets 17 in lodge
Pg 153 transferred to Spotted Tail April 21st
30 Jun 1889 Standing Rock pg 113 mother Hunkpapa Sioux
30 Jun 1892 Pine Ridge pg 367 father
3 Mar 1893 Pine Ridge mother
30 Jun 1894 Pine Ridge father
Full brother to Brave Bear and a relative of Sitting Bull and married Spotted Tail's sister, pg 49 Spotted Tail's Folk. A younger half brother to Long Chin pg 68 and 78

Children of Red Leaf and Spotted Tail Sister Long Woman were as follows:
Brings Her Horses, born 1849 in Oglala Sioux. She married unknown.

Crow Dog, born 1833 in Oglala Sioux; died 1912 in Rosebud Sioux Reservation. He married (1st) Good Home, born 1842 in Oglala Sioux; (2nd) Cook Her, born 1843 in Oglala Lakota Sioux, daughter of Little Chief; (3rd) Jumping Elk, born in Blackfoot

Notes for Crow Dog
Crow Dog Kangi Sunka- Crow Coyote Kangi Shunka Manitou-Bad Bear Mato Sicha-
1833-1910. Crow Dog was present when CRAZY HORSE was killed at Fort Robinson, Nebraska, in 1877, he helped prevent a retaliatory attack on U.S. Army soldiers at the fort. He was police chief at the Rosebud Reservation in 1879-1880, during which time he assassinated SPOTTED TAIL. Crow Dog was born at Horse Stealing Creek, Montana Territory, into a family of esteemed warriors. Before submitting to reservation life, he made his reputation in battle. As the Sioux were confined on reservations following the CUSTER battle at the Little Bighorn, dissension arose among some of their leaders. On one occasion, Spotted Tail was accused by RED CLOUD of pocketing the proceeds from a sale of tribal land. Crow Dog heard rumors that Spotted Tail was selling Lakota land to the railroads, building himself an enormous white-styled mansion with proceeds. In mid-July 1880, Spotted Tail was called before the general council by Crow Dog's White Horse Group, where he denied the charges. The council voted to retain him as head chief, but Crow Dog continued to assert the chief's complicity in various crimes against the people. Crow Dog carried out his own death sentence on Spotted Tail on August 5, 1881. Blood money was paid in traditional BRULE fashion for the crime. Crow Dog was also convicted of murder in a Dakota Territory court; he was later freed on order of the U.S. Supreme Court, which ruled that the territorial government had no jurisdiction over the crime. Later, Crow Dog was one of the leaders in popularizing WOVOKA's Ghost Dance among the Lakota. Crow Dog adopted the religion from SHORT BULL. Crow Dog vociferously opposed U.S. Army occupation of South Dakota Indian reservations and was one of the last holdouts after the massacre of BIG Foot¿s people at the Wounded Knee during December 1890. Crow Dog spent the last years of his life in relative peace on the Rosebud Sioux Reservation in South Dakota.

The nephew of Brave Bear, chief of the Lakota Wazhazha (Orphan Band), and cousin of Iron Shell (pg 113To Kill An Eagle)

Consequently, Crow Dog was told by his cousin, Black Crow, that he had to live separately from the tribe for the rest of his days and that the next four generations of his family also would be ostracized.

Notes for Good Home
1900 census Rosebud married 39 yrs 11 children 5 still living

Notes for Cook Her
30 Jun 1891 Rosebud pg 354 Cook Her

Children of Crow Dog and Good Home were as follows:
(1) Jerome Crow Dog, born 1853 in Oglala Sioux. He married (1st) One Who Walks With Stars Crow Dog; (2nd) Holy Cane Crow Dog.
(2) Ghost Dog, born 1855 in Oglala Sioux Nation. He married Sarah.
Nellie Crow Dog, born Apr 1870 in Oglala Sioux, South Dakota.
(3) Alexander Crow Dog, born Oct 1885 in Oglala Sioux, South Dakota.

Children of Crow Dog (---) and Cook Her (---) were as follows:
(4) John4 Crow Dog, born 1869 in Oglala Lakota Sioux. He married (1) Mary (Arm) Crow Dog; (2) Jennie (Little Bear) Crow Dog.


Dog Hawk, born 1839 in Oglala Lakota Sioux. He married (1st) Nation, born 1842 in Oglala Lakota Sioux; (2nd) Little Elk, born 1857 in Oglala Lakota Sioux.

Notes for Dog Hawk
Che Ton Shon Car--Sunka Cetan
Crazy Horse Surrender Ledger
Pg 100 arrivals from the north 120 lodges- Scared Bear, Small Tail, Two Tails, Iron Shell, Medicine Eagle, Between Lodges, Dog Hawk.....
30 Jun 1887 Rosebud pg 92
30 Jun 1891 Rosebud pg 354 wife & child
30 Jun 1892 Rosebud pg 124 wife & child

Pg 130 Spotted Tail's Folk 27 June 1866 signed treaty
Spotted Tail Brule Ring Band head Chief of Brule's
Swift Bear Brule Corn Band
Dog Hawk Brule Orphan band
Hawk Thunder (Thunder Hawk) Brule
And pg 316-17 Hollow Horn Bear, son of Iron Shell, was now the Chief of the Orphan's; but in that group the most experianced and influential leaders were Crow Dog and Dog Hawk, both whom hated Spotted Tail.

Notes for Nation (---)
30 Jun 1887 Rosebud pg 92

Notes for Little Elk (---)
30 Jun 1887 Rosebud pg 92

Children of Dog Hawk and Nation were as follows:
Peter Dog Hawk, born 1871 in Oglala Lakota Sioux. Notes: 30 Jun 1887 Rosebud pg 92

Children of Dog Hawk and Little Elk were as follows:
(1) Shake Hands, born 1884 in Oglala Lakota Sioux. Notes: 30 Jun 1887 Rosebud pg 92
(2) Pouting Over Paint, born 1885 in Rosebud Sioux. Notes: 30 Jun 1887 Rosebud pg 92 Pouting Over Paint 30 Jun 1891 Rosebud pg 354 Quarrel Over Paint 30 Jun 1892 Rosebud pg 124 Red Paint
(3) Little Woman, born in Oglala Lakota Sioux.


Bull Tail, born 1770 in Brule Sioux, Minnesota; died Aug 1851 in Upper Platte, son of Crooked Hand. He married unknown.

Notes for Bull Tail
One of the principle Chief's in 1840
Pg 8 Crazy Horse Strange Man of The Oglala's
Also Hollow Horned Bear

Children of Bull Tail (---) were as follows:
Iron Shell, born 1808 in Sioux Nation, Brule. He married Oglala Woman.
Little Chief, born 1823 in Oglala Lakota Sioux. He married (1st) unknown; (2nd) Over The Ridge; (3rd) Elk Woman.

Generation 2

2. Iron Shell, born 1808 in Sioux Nation, Brule. He married Oglala Woman, born in Oglala Lakota Sioux.

Notes for Iron Shell
Iron Shell was related to Brave Bear-Scattering Bear

Children of Iron Shell and Oglala Woman were as follows:
Iron Shell, born 1845 in Sioux Nation, Oglala. He married (1st) Kiss Once; (2nd) Lizzie.
Hollow Horn Bear, born 1850 in Oglala Brule, Rosebud, South Dakota; died 1913 in Washington D.C.. He married Good Bed .
Goes to War, born in Brule Sioux Nation. Notes: pg 130 The Killing of Chief Crazy Horse


3. Little Chief, born 1823 in Oglala Lakota Sioux. He married (1st) unknown; (2nd) Over The Ridge, born 1839 in Oglala Sioux Nation; (3) Elk Woman, born 1844 in Oglala Sioux Nation.

Notes for Little Chief
Crazy Horse Surrender Ledger
Pg 30 3-3-4-1 Oglala
Pg 72 4-2-3-0 Wahzahzah Little Chief with him Yankton, Feather Ears, Grease
Pg 122 Red Fly 8 in family-Little Chief 10 in family-Bad Mustang 4 in family-Bad Ree 10 in family
Pg 154 transfers to Spotted Tail Little Chief & The Back April 22nd
1900 census Rosebud pg 185a widowed 2 children living parents b in S Dakota

30 Jun 1887 Rosebud pg 37
30 Jun 1891 Rosebud pg 323
30 Jun 1892 Rosebud pg 136

Notes for Over The Ridge (---)
30 jun 1887 Rosebud pg 37

Notes for Elk Woman (---)
30 Jun 1887 Rosebud pg 37
30 Jun 1891 Rosebud pg 323
30 Jun 1892 Rosebud pg 136

Children of Little Chief (---) were as follows:
Cook Her, born 1843 in Oglala Lakota Sioux. She married Crow Dog .
Little Chief, born 1845 in Oglala Sioux Nation. He married Woman .
Old Woman Butte, born 1848 in Oglala Sioux Nation, North Dakota. Notes: 1900 census Rosebud pg 185a widow 3 children 1 living parents b in S Dakota

Children of Little Chief and Elk Woman were as follows:
Owns The World, born 1872 in Oglala Sioux Nation. Notes: 30 jun 1887 Rosebud pg 37
Red Turnips, born 1876 in Oglala Sioux Nation. Notes: 30 jun 1887 Rosebud pg 37 Red Turnips
Red Rosebud, born 1881 in Oglala Sioux Nation. Notes: 30 jun 1887 Rosebud pg 37 Red Rosebud
Good, born 1885 in Rosebud Sioux. Notes: 30 Jun 1891 Rosebud pg 323

Generation 3

4. Iron Shell born 1845 in Sioux Nation, Oglala. He married (1st) Kiss Once, born 1848 in Oglala Sioux Nation, Wyoming; (2) Lizzie, born 1858 in Oglala Sioux, Wyoming; died 9 Apr 1935 in Pine Ridge South Dakota.

Notes for Iron Shell
1910 census Wounded Knee pg 120b married twice 36 yrs parents b in SD
Cousin of Crow Dog (pg 113To Kill An Eagle) relative of Crazy Horse pg 109

Notes for Kiss Once
30 Jun 1900 Rosebud pg 446
1910 census Wounded Knee pg 120b parents b in Mont sister of Lizzie

Notes for Lizzie
1910 census Wounded Knee pg 120b parents b in Mont sister of Kiss Once

Children of Iron Shell and Kiss Once were as follows:
William Iron Shell, born 1876 in Rosebud. He married Gladys Iron Shell.
Peter Iron Shell, born 1877 in Brule Nation. He married (1st) Alice Iron Shell; (2nd) Hannah (Eagle Man) Iron Shell.
Frank4 Iron Shell, born 1882 in Rosebud Sioux. He married (1st) Della Iron Shell; (2nd) Fannie ((---)) Iron Shell; (3rd) Lulu Iron Shell; (4th) Gladys Iron Shell.


5. Hollow Horn Bear, born 1850 in Oglala Brule, Rosebud, South Dakota; died 1913 in Washington D.C.. He married Good Bed, born 1858 in Cheyenne Nation; died 1921 in Rosebud Sioux.

Notes for Hollow Horn Bear
30 Jun 1887 Rosebud pg 102 wives Bird & Wounded Head
30 Jun 1891 Rosebud pg 359
30 Jun 1892 Rosebud pg 130
30 Jun 1895 Rosebud pg 273
30 Jun 1898 Rosebud pg 145
30 Jun 1901 Rosebud pg 109
30 Jun 1904 Rosebud pg 447
30 Jun 1905 Rosebud pg 586
30 Jun 1909 Rosebud pg 311
1900 census Rosebud pg 282 married 27 yrs parents b in S Dakota
1850-1913. pg 74 & 316-21 Spotted Tail's Folk Iron Shells son. Hollow Horn Bear fought with the leading chiefs of the Plains against subjugation until the 1870s; after that, he favored peace with the whites and became something of a celebrity along the East Coast. In his later years, Hollow Horn Bear attended several official functions as a Native representative, including two inaugural parades. His likeness appeared on a fourteen-cent stamp as well as on a five-dollar bill._Born in Sheridan Country, Nebraska, a son of Chief Iron Shell, Hollow Horn Bear earned his early fame as a warrior, he raided the Pawnees at first then aided other Sioux leaders in harassing forts along the Bozeman Trail, between 1866 and 1868, when the Treaty of Fort Laramie was signed. During this time, he gained fame as the chief who defeated Lieutenant William Fetterman. Hollow Horn Bear was appointed as head of Indian police at the Rosebud Agency, South Dakota; in this role, he arrested Crow Dog for the murder of Spotted Tail. Hollow Horn Bear also became involved in treaty negotiations because of his oratorical abilities._In 1905, Hollow Horn Bear was invited to take part in the inauguration of President Theodore Roosevelt. In 1913, he led a group of Indians to the presidential inauguration parade for Woodrow Wilson. On that visit, Hollow Horn Bear caught pneumonia and died.

Born 1850. First war-party at twelve against Pawnee. At nineteen he took the pipe and led a party, which killed a number of Pawnee wood-haulers. Struck a first coup-"kill right"-in that battle. After that his father, Iron Shell, desired him to take that name, but he said that he would take his grandfather's name instead, and make the name Hollow Horn Bear good. During his career as a warrior, he counted coup many times and participated in twenty-three fights with Pawnee, Omaha, Ponca, Ute, Arikara, and United States troops. He was present at the Custer fight.

Notes for Good Bed (---)
30 Jun 1887 Rosebud pg 102
30 Jun 1891 Rosebud pg 359
30 Jun 1892 Rosebud pg 130
30 Jun 1895 Rosebud pg 273
30 Jun 1898 Rosebud pg 145
30 Jun 1901 Rosebud pg 109
30 Jun 1904 Rosebud pg 447
30 Jun 1905 Rosebud pg 586
30 Jun 1909 Rosebud pg 311
alone 1913-1921

Children of Hollow Horn Bear and Good Bed were as follows:
Laura4 Hollow Horn Bear, born 1875 in Brule Nation. Notes: 30 Jun 1887 Rosebud pg 102 Medicine 30 Jun 1891 Rosebud pg 359 Red Bird 30 Jun 1892 Rosebud pg 130 Yellow Bird 30 Jun 1895 Rosebud pg 273
John4 Hollow Horn Bear, born 1877 in Oglala Brule, Rosebud, Sd. Notes: 30 Jun 1887 Rosebud pg 102 Reckless 30 Jun 1891 Rosebud pg 359 Brave 30 Jun 1892 Rosebud pg 130 Kills Reckless 30 Jun 1895 Rosebud pg 273 30 Jun 1898 Rosebud pg 145 30 Jun 1904 Rosebud pg 447 pg 447 1900 census Rosebud pg 282 parents b in S Dakota
Henry4 Hollow Horn Bear, born 1882 in Brule Nation. Notes: 30 Jun 1887 Rosebud pg 102 Holy Bird 30 Jun 1891 Rosebud pg 359 Holy Bird 30 Jun 1892 Rosebud pg 130 Holy Bird 30 Jun 1895 Rosebud pg 273 30 Jun 1898 Rosebud pg 145 30 Jun 1904 Rosebud pg 447 pg 447
Daniel4 Hollow Horn Bear, born 1885 in Oglala Sioux Todd, South Dakota. He married Winnie ((---)) Hollow Horn Bear. Notes: 30 Jun 1887 Rosebud pg 102 Boy 30 Jun 1891 Rosebud pg 359 Helper 30 Jun 1904 Rosebud pg 447 pg 447 1900 census Todd pg 308b married 3 yrs
Jennie4 Hollow Horn Bear, born 1891 in Brule Nation. Notes: 30 Jun 1891 Rosebud pg 359 30 Jun 1892 Rosebud pg 130 30 Jun 1895 Rosebud pg 273 30 Jun 1898 Rosebud pg 145 30 Jun 1901 Rosebud pg 447 pg 109 30 Jun 1904 Rosebud pg 447 pg 447
Emily4 Hollow Horn Bear, born 1893 in Brule Nation. Notes: 30 Jun 1895 Rosebud pg 273 30 Jun 1898 Rosebud pg 145 30 Jun 1901 Rosebud pg 447 pg 109 30 Jun 1904 Rosebud pg 447 pg 447
Paul4 Hollow Horn Bear, born 1895 in Brule Nation. Notes: 30 Jun 1898 Rosebud pg 145
James4 Hollow Horn Bear, born 1900 in Brule Nation. Notes: 30 Jun 1901 Rosebud pg 447 pg 109


7. Cook Her, born 1843 in Oglala Lakota Sioux. She married Crow Dog, born 1833 in Oglala Sioux; died 1912 in Rosebud Sioux Reservation, son of Long Chin

Notes for Cook Her
30 Jun 1891 Rosebud pg 354 Cook Her

Children of Cook Her and Crow Dog were as follows:
John4 Crow Dog, born 1869 in Oglala Lakota Sioux. He married (1st) Mary (Arm) Crow Dog; (2nd) Jennie (Little Bear) Crow Dog.


8. Little Chief, born 1845 in Oglala Sioux. He married Woman, born 1846 in Oglala Lakota Sioux.

Notes for Little Chief
30 Jun 1887 Rosebud pg 220 Wahzahzah
30 Jun 1891 Rosebud pg 433
30 Jun 1892 Rosebud pg 105
1900 census Rosebud pg 185a 2 children living parents b in S Dakota his niece and sister living with him

Notes for Woman (---)
30 Jun 1887 Rosebud pg 220 Wahzahzah
30 Jun 1891 Rosebud pg 433
30 Jun 1892 Rosebud pg 105

Children of Little Chief and Woman were as follows:
Gilbert Little Chief, born 1871 in Oglala Lakota Sioux. He married Alice Little Chief.
James Little Chief, born 1875 in Oglala Sioux Nation. He married Alice Little Chief.
Pretty Man, born 1882 in Oglala Lakota Sioux. Notes: 30 Jun 1887 Rosebud pg 220 Wahzahzah


LaDeane

[kingsleybray]

Thanks, LaDeane. An amazing spread of data. Just one correction, the Brave Bear who married Red Cloud's sister and was the father of George Sword and others - he is not the same man as Brave Bear/Conquering Bear/Scattering Bear. The latter was a Wazhazha. The other, who died in 1874 according to a statement by his son George Sword was an Oglala, Bad Face band.

A snapshot of the family in the Rosebud Census 1887, Brule No. 2 Band, 11 people:

Crow Dog, age 54
Cooks the Pot, 49, Wife
Leave Her Rock, 42, Wife
Ugly Woman, 20, Daughter
Yankton, 13, Da
White Woman, 5, Da
Lightning, 6, Da
John, 8, Son
Dead Dog, 12, Son
Thunder Comes Out, 10, Son
Log, 2, Son

[miller7513]

Almost everyone I know gets the Red Cloud’s mixed up

1. Red Cloud, born 1778 in Oglala Sioux Nation, son of Red Cloud. He married (1st) Northern Cheyenne Woman, born in Cheyenne Nation; (2nd) Oglala Woman, born in Oglala Sioux Nation.

Notes for Red Cloud
Chief Red Cloud's uncle

Notes for Northern Cheyenne Woman
Mari Sandoz-Cheyenne Woman married Red Cloud

Children of Red Cloud and Northern Cheyenne Woman were as follows:
(1) Four Times, born in Oglala Sioux Nation. She married Brave Bear.
(2) Returns Last, born in Oglala Sioux Nation. She married Brave Bear.
(3) Red Cloud, born 1826 in Oglala Sioux Nation. He married White Faced Woman, born 1831 in Oglala Sioux Nation. Notes: Southern Red Cloud 30 Jun 1886 Cheyenne River pg #469 30 Jun 1887 Cheyenne River pg #469 30 Jun 1890 Cheyenne River pg #469 30 Jun 1891 Cheyenne River pg 416 1 Jul 1902 Cheyenne River 1 Jul 1911 Cheyenne River Bear On The Hill other source OLC Mari Sandoz

Children of Red Cloud and Oglala Woman were as follows:
(4) Walks On, born 1801 in Oglala Sioux Nation; died 1830 in Oglala Sioux Nation. She married He Bear.
(5) Daughter of2 Red Cloud, born in Oglala Sioux Nation. She married Red Dog Horse.

Four Times, born in Oglala Sioux Nation. She married Brave Bear, born 1809 in Oglala Sioux Nation; died 19 Aug 1854 in Ft Laramie, Wyoming, son of Oglala and Walks As She Thinks.

Notes for Brave Bear (---)
Bear That Scatters-Scattering Bear- wife ?----That speaks
Bear Runs Fearless was Red Cloud¿s brother-in-law
The appointment of Brave Bear as head Chief must have been very important to Spotted Tail for Brave Bear was his cousin, presumably on his mothers side, pg 55 Spotted Tail's Folk
Also on pg 67-68 Red Leaf his brother and Long Chin, his half-brother
Also on pg 316 Spotted Tail's Folk-related to Iron Shell-and pg 313 a nephew, Crow Dog
James R. Walker. Translated by Ella Deloria

Children of Four Times and Brave Bear were as follows:
(1) Afraid Of Bear, born 1841 in Oglala Sioux Nation; died 9 Jan 1913 in Pine Ridge, Shannon, South Dakota. He married (1st) Eagle; (2nd) Moves Lodge.
(2) George Sword, born 1847 in Oglala Lakota Nation; died 18 Nov 1910 in Pine Ridge, Shannon, South Dakota. He married Lucy Ann (Different Eagle) Sword.
(3) Poor Dog, died 1876 in Oglala Lakota Nation.
(4) White Calf, born in Oglala Lakota Nation.


Returns Last, born in Oglala Sioux Nation. She married Brave Bear, born 1809 in Oglala Sioux Nation; died 19 Aug 1854 in Ft Laramie, Wyoming, son of Oglala and Walks As She Thinks.

Notes for Brave Bear
Bear That Scatters-Scattering Bear wife ?----That speaks
Bear Runs Fearless was Red Cloud¿s brother-in-law
The appointment of Brave Bear as head Chief must have been very important to Spotted Tail for Brave Bear was his cousin, presumably on his mothers side, pg 55 Spotted Tail's Folk
Also on pg 67-68 Red Leaf his brother and Long Chin, his half-brother
Also on pg 316 Spotted Tail's Folk-related to Iron Shell-and pg 313 a nephew, Crow Dog
James R. Walker. Translated by Ella Deloria

Children of Returns Last and Brave Bear were as follows:
(1) Fast Horse, born in Oglala Lakota Nation.
(2) Beautiful Snake Woman, born in Oglala Lakota Nation. Notes: Bell Snake
(3) Bad Nostrils, born in Oglala Lakota Nation.
(4) Bear Runs Fearless, born in Oglala Lakota Nation.
LaDeane

[miller7513]

Kingsley concerning Brave Bear;
Take this into consideration-Chief Red Cloud’s parents died ABT 1825-6.
Yellow Lodge was the last born 1824-5
Big Spider b 1812 father of Black Buffalo Woman and Red Feather
Roaring Cloud b 1815
Brings Spotted b ABT 1817 married Stabber
Pretty White Ears b 1819-20 married an unknown and was recorded in census 30 Jun 1886 Pine Ridge pg 116 mother of Dirt Kettle and her mother was Medicine Face wife of Lone Man
Red Cedar b 1822 married first Marcellin St. Vrain 2nd William Bransford
After his parents died, his “sisters” (that would be his aunts, Smoke Chief’s sisters-Takola win and Midday Sun ) raised him
THEREFORE any children would have to be born on or before 1810
The Brave Bear you talk about was born 1832-38 (The Brave Bear who married Red Cloud's sister was born before 1810)
LaDeane

[kingsleybray]

Hi La Deane,

my point was that Brave Bear the father of George Sword (bn 1847) and his brothers was a Bad Face Oglala, married to a 'sister' of Red Cloud's. You correctly identify those children in your post. George Sword gave his father's Lakota name as Mato Kagishni Inyanke, which literally translates Bear Runs Without Fear - loosely, Brave Bear. Indeed he was born early in the 19th century. Afraid of Bear (born 1843), another of his sons, told JR Walker that his father was born about the Year the Good White Man Came, a winter count year matching about 1802-03.

This "Brave Bear", the brother-in-law of Red Cloud, who died on April the first, 1874, according to George Sword, was a different man from the Wazhazha leader whose Lakota name was Mato Wayuhi. His name is conventionally translated as Conquering Bear or Brave Bear, but the verb -yuhi means 'scattering' as e.g. a bear scattering earth when it digs up roots. That's why I translate that name as Scattering Bear. It also saves on confusion with other people with similar names.

Scattering Bear was the leader selected as the Teton head chief by the treaty commission at Horse Creek in 1851, and who was killed by Grattan's troops in 1854. He too must have been born early in the 19th c. About 1805-1810 seems the right frame to me. So he and Brave Bear were near contemporaries, but they were two different men. It was the latter, the Oglala Brave Bear who had the marriage connection to Red Cloud's sister.

I know there was an Oglala called Brave Bear born in the 1830s. I am unsure of his family background, and would appreciate any help in identifying his parentage.

[gregor]

With regard to the (s)election of Mato Wayuhi / Scattering Bear as head chief / spokesman for he Lakotas see here ( Replies #5 to # 9):

amertribes.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=lbh&action=display&thread=977&page=1

[Dietmar]

Crow Dog, sitting far left, with He Dog, High Hawk and others

[clarence]

Good morning,
looking at the 1891 Crow Dog pictures, credited to Grabill or Moreledge, where he's together with Two Strike and another man identified as High Hawk, I would say, comparing these pictures with the noted 1872 Gardner series, that this man is instead Gassy.
Best regards
Clarence

[grahamew]

[grahamew]

DeCost Smith description of Crow Dog, probably 1884:

There was nothing Indian about his dress, which consisted of a soft black hat, black shirt and dark trousers tucked into high-heeled cowboy boots which fitted his feet admirably. He had a thin beard, and his hair which hung loose to just below his ears was curly, an unusual thing in an Indian.

He notes that when he met him again, 18 years later, his hair was long, his face was beardless and he wore blanket, leggings and moccasins.

I came across this illustration in the James Taylor collection. I wonder if it's the work of Smith, since it's clearly a younger man than in the Wounded Knee photos and his hair and beard match the description?



I have to admit, I wouldn't have thought that by 1884, dress of hat and trousers was that uncommon on the reservation, Boots, yes.

It was, however, next to this picture, which I think says captain of Indian Police. To me, it looks like Spotted Tail in a hat (which wasn't there in the original photo) and Smith arrived out west three years after he'd been shot: