"Pine-Pitch-House"

[Montolzh]

Scout John Rope refers to growing up with a white man named "Pine-Pitch-House" captured and raised Apache. John Rope related that he may have been Father in law to one of Geronimo's wives, but would be disgraceful to admit so. He must have been a man of some standing and respect among his band, he was said to have taken place in negotiations with Gen. Crook. He seems to have died, or been killed prior to returning to reservation, there may have been some disagreement with Geronimo. Does anyone have any information?

[kayitah]

Interesting. Jelikine comes to mind, but I will have to check Sweeney's "From Cochise to Geronimo"...

[Montolzh]

Je-li-kine would be about approximate.

[jeroen]

If Pine Pitch House was indeed father in law to one of Geronimo's wives, does anybody know which wife?

[Mithlo]

Dji-li-kinne is said to be the father of both Zi-yeh - "Zy-yay" (1869-1904), wife of Geronimo and her sister "Zaie-nah" - Effie Binday (1877-1900), wife of Samuel Binday. Their mother died when they were young and they were raised by their mothers sister "Go-nah-zin" (1822-1896) with Dji-li-kinne suppling all their needs. He was killed while on a raid (in Mexico) in the early 1880's (1883?).

Sept 11, 2011 12:45:31 GMT -5 Montolzh said:

Scout John Rope refers to growing up with a white man named "Pine-Pitch-House" captured and raised Apache. John Rope related that he may have been Father in law to one of Geronimo's wives, but would be disgraceful to admit so. He must have been a man of some standing and respect among his band, he was said to have taken place in negotiations with Gen. Crook. He seems to have died, or been killed prior to returning to reservation, there may have been some disagreement with Geronimo. Does anyone have any information?

[coeurrouge]

Dji-li-kinne was killed by a Mexican Sniper during the raid against Nacori Chico, Sonora, on july 21th, 1883.

[Montolzh]

Thank you, blue stone to each of you!