Can anyone repost the image missing from Naiches' post, please? And does anyone have a better image of the man with hat at the right of the photo of the seated headmen - the one missed off the enlargement?
I´ve uploaded Naiche´s photo. Unfortunately I don´t have a better version of the first photo in this thread. I think Black Bear, Red Dog and Pawnee Killer could be the men in the picture, but it´s impossible to say for certain with only the small sample.
Thanks. That's a great image. I'm with you on Black Bear and Red Dog. It's interesting to see how they decked themselves out to meet the expedition - Black Bear appears to be wearing a fringed shirt, No Flesh in his officer's coat, Red Dog in what appears to be a shorter kind of top hat (the man third from left in the striped shirt has another), his peace medal and carrying an American flag. At least one of the hats looks like it's just been acquired because the owner is still wearing a feather - although No Flesh is eyeing him suspiciously, so maybe it's his and he's telling him to buy his own. Kingsley pointed out the pipe and pipe bag and I'm curious about the 'staff' that the man we think is Slow Bull is cradling. While I don't think it's a knife club (unless the blades are turned toward his body - which isn't how I would be carrying it), the attachments of fur and feathers remind me of staffs in the thread on symbols of Lakota leadership: amertribes.proboards.com/thread/2322/lakota-leadership-symbols?page=5&scrollTo=20304
Last Edit: Jan 4, 2017 12:14:33 GMT -5 by grahamew
Post by kingsleybray on Jan 4, 2017 17:29:19 GMT -5
There is a fuller, but apparently still not complete list of Oglalas and Brules in the party which travelled through the Black Hills in July 1875. It was printed in the Omaha Daily Herald, issue of August 13th, 1875, and is reprinted in James E. Potter's invaluable edition of the newspaper coverage of the Black Hills Council - From Our Special Correspondent: Dispatches from the 1875 Black Hills Council at Red Cloud Agency, Nebraska (Nebraska State Historical Society, 2015), p. 64.
The list reads Black Bear, Blue Horse, The Dawn, Round Thunder (Ring Thunder, I assume), Whirlwind Soldier, Red Dog, No Flesh, Little Eagle, Ghost Shield, Eagle Hawk.
Of these Ring Thunder and Whirlwind Soldier also have contemporary photo's, so maybe they could be posted up or details enlarged to see if they match any of the subjects in the second group photo here? Ring Thunder is in two of the 1877 delegation photo's, and Whirlwind Soldier features in one of the 1868 treaty pictures by Gardner.
In fact, is it Ring Thunder seated second from right?
Post by kingsleybray on Jan 5, 2017 4:03:53 GMT -5
thanks grahamew, I too got to thinking the man in the striped shirt might be Whirlwind Soldier.
Of the first photo, featuring Black Bear and Red Dog -- I wonder if the Lakota at the right could be Blue Horse? More from the logic of those three being the main 'chiefs' or civil headmen (not warriors) from the Red Cloud Agency contingent.
I found this article that contains a more complete list of Lakotas than the Chicago Tribune article mentioned earlier in this thread by Kingsley:
The New York Herald, August 08, 1875, Page 7:
CAMP HARNEY, BLACK HILLS July 20, 1875 This morning four of the Commissioners appointed by the President to negotiate with the Indians regarding the ceding of the Black Hills to the government arrived at this camp from Red Cloud Agency. They are the Rev. G. D. Hinman, John S. Collins, W. H. Ashby and Abram Comingo. Their escort consists of a company of cavalry, under command of Captain Eagan, whose station is Camp Robinson. Eleven head warriors and braves also accompanied the Commissioners. They wear an air of great importance and seem to be conscious of their greatness as possessors of this beautiful and rich region. Red Dog is the man of biggest self-assertion among them and is the chief of the party. The others are Blue Horse, No Flesh, Black Bear, Little Calf, Spotted Wood Lightning, Little Eagle, Hard Ground, Whirlwind Soldier, The-Man-Who Kills-The-Hawk and The-Ghost-That-Lies-in-The- Wood. Whirlwind Soldier is the son of Spotted Tail, whom he resembles very closely, lacking only the touch of age to make his features the counterpart of those of the old warrior. Hard Ground is a Yankton Sioux.
[Note that Whirlwind Soldier was not a son, but a son-in-law of Spotted Tail.]