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Post by jeroen on Nov 29, 2010 6:14:41 GMT -5
I think you are right, it is not him; if it is, it is certainly not taken about 1875...
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Post by jeroen on Feb 7, 2011 3:23:03 GMT -5
A rare image of Chief Joseph on horseback, taken during festivities at Nespelem 1900: close up:
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Post by jeroen on Jul 7, 2012 16:26:22 GMT -5
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Post by jeroen on Nov 29, 2012 3:25:16 GMT -5
Taken when he met with Buffalo Bill Cody:
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Post by Californian on Nov 13, 2018 1:55:41 GMT -5
I was under the impression that the first image of Chief Joseph was by Orlando Scott Goff dated 1877 - the original glass negative ended up with David F. Barry who was his assistant (it is now in the D F Barry negatives collection at the Denver Public Library)
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Post by grahamew on Nov 13, 2018 13:32:37 GMT -5
I thought it was this one, taken by John H. Fouch on October 23 at Tongue River Cantonment was the first: Or this one (also by Fouch): This is supposed to be an early image of Joseph. I'm not too sure... This is supposed to be a fairly early one taken in Kansas - though obviously after the two above and the Goff: As is this: I've seen the Goff photo credited to Barry (but why would be there unless he was working with Goff) and Haynes. As I've said elsewhere, the backdrop used is the same as in the early photo of Rain in the Face, so it would be interesting to be able to confirm who actually took it (and when, in the case of Rain-in-the-Face). Whoever it was had only a short window of opportunity to photograph Joseph. Those hats with the bands around them seem to have been pretty popular among the surrendered Nez Perce. I wonder if the alread had them or whether they were acquired after the surrender but before transportation to Kansas. This is another early one - after they've had time to be kitted out with fans and ostrich plume hats and, in Joseph's case, a smart jacket - or is it just a wasitcoat over the shirt seen in the Goff photo...? And here (for good measure) is the less common image taken on his trip to Washington DC with Yellow Bull in 1878 or 79: Finally, I've seen this one several times online as a photo showing Joseph and Looking Glass and associates in 1877: I think it's a lot later, but I'm happy to be proven wrong. It has the look of those Moorhouse photos...
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Post by Californian on Nov 13, 2018 20:02:08 GMT -5
thank you Mr. Grahame W. it is greatly appreciated - the image attributed to Goff (negative now with the D F Barry collection at the Denver Public Library) has a faint pine tree in the backdrop, remotely reminiscent to the one used for the 1881 Sitting Bull image. That must not mean really much - if merely a potential clue. I have to concur with you that John Hale Fouch, post photographer at Fort Keogh, Montana Territory most likely should credited with creating the first ever image of Chief Joseph and that would have been several weeks prior to the latter reaching Bismarck in Dakota Territory to be photographed by Orlando Scott Goff. Of course the image attributed to Goff is the one most recognizable in the world.
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Post by grahamew on Nov 14, 2018 3:42:11 GMT -5
Thanks. I'm not sure it's the same as his Sitting Bull background, but it's definitely the same as the Rain in the Face one, which was taken earlier
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Post by Californian on Jan 7, 2021 18:58:05 GMT -5
Chief Joseph - 1879 by Charles Milton Bell - click onto image to enlarge
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Post by grahamew on Oct 31, 2021 8:37:29 GMT -5
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