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Post by brentnvicki on Jun 14, 2009 9:35:12 GMT -5
I am interested in photo's and any stories relating to Sam Helper. Sam Helper was the son of Chief Hump. He was a Ghost Dancer and a fancy dancer according to David Humphreys Miller. I have several pictures of Paintings of Sam Helper but no photographs.
Thanks for the help
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Post by Historian on Jun 14, 2009 13:41:16 GMT -5
Any relation to Marvin Helper of Red Shirt Community?
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Post by brentnvicki on Jun 14, 2009 16:12:35 GMT -5
I am not sure if Old Sam Helper is related to Marvin Helper of the Red Shirt Community, but i will find out. I have sent an email to Donovin Sprague who is related to Chief Hump and is the Historian at The Crazy Horse Memorial. I asked him your question. We will see what we get back.
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Post by Dietmar on Jun 17, 2009 16:32:09 GMT -5
Here is a wonderful painting of Sam Helper that Brent has sent to me with the following information: Sam Helper by David H. Miller This is a painting of "Old Sam Helper". He was a member of the Ghost Dance and survivor of Wounded Knee. If I have my genealogy correct. Sam was 16 years old at Wounded Knee and the son of Chief Hump. He was a close friend to David and presented his Ghost Dance Shield to him at his wedding.
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Post by brentnvicki on Jun 18, 2009 19:11:13 GMT -5
Here is a reply to a previous question in this thread. Is Sam Helper a relative of Marvin Helper. The answer is yes. I also found out that Sam was not originally Oglala. He is Minnicoujou. Attached is the email. From Donovin Sprague
Hello Brent, Good to hear from you. Yes, Samuel Helper was interviewed by David and Samuel is Chief Hump's son. There is information on this family on page 121 in my "Pine Ridge Reservation" book. Pete Helper, Sr. & I are pictured, and Samuel was Pete's father. I will have to get a picture of Samuel to compare to the painting. What year was it done? I checked our records and Samuel was born in 1879. I have information on these people in an upcoming book "Hump & Crazy Horse". The above Chief Hump was the son of High Backbone/Hump I. I am related to most of the people DHM interviewed re: Wounded Knee and the Hump you refer to is my great great grandfather. The son Samuel chose to follow along with his uncle Si Tanka (Big Foot) but did not "defect" from his father Hump. People moved freely and Samuel chose to go to W.K. with other relatives. A few years back I took Hump family records and photos to the Helper family and the later generations really were interested in their connection to all this. Samuel is also in our allotment records and as my book notes, he was not known by Samuel Helper until shortly after the WK Massacre. I also have his real Lakota name and he married Thunder Hawk Woman who also survived WK. This did settle in the area north of Loneman not far from Red Shirt. Marvin Helper is part of the family. He comes from Jake Helper, also a son of Samuel Helper. When the family requested to stay at Pine Ridge Res. instead of being forced back to their Cheyenne River homeland they told the agency officlais if allowed to stay, they would be helpers and help out at the agency. Thus the name changed and they are enrolled as Oglalas at Pine Ridge. Later generations also married into Oglalas. Hump & Samuel were Minnicoujou.
Your friend, Donovin Sprague Hump
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Post by brentnvicki on Jun 19, 2009 19:29:09 GMT -5
Brent, My uncle Pete Helper, Sr. died just a couple of years ago at about age 96. He always spoke Lakota language. In the blog maybe you can also tell them I will have a book explaining some of their history, and that the real Lakota name of Samuel Helper was Stands By. In the book "Ghost Dance" I think there is a reference that Helper was 16 years old and the date he was born didn't "add up" but I will examine that when I have more time. I know he was young at WK, but the official family agency records say 1879. Thanks, Donovin
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