Has anyone ever seen this photograph, which apparently was taken at Ft. Laramie:
Portrait of Three Native Men Holding Pipes and Five Non-Native Men, (L-R:) 1857 James Louis Rodeaux: Chief Conquering Bear; Amos Bettleyoun?; Chief Milk; Todd Randall (Standing); Joseph Prueg; John Boveau; Chief White Bird; Louie Reshaux Place of creation: Wyoming Fort Laramie National Anthropological Archives NAA INV 00494100
Post by kingsleybray on Aug 18, 2015 16:22:51 GMT -5
Think it might be a wild goose chase, Dietmar. You know, of course, the Gardner 1868 photo of Old Man Afraid of His Horse, Red Bear and (?) Sitting Bull the Oglala, with James Bordeaux and Amos Bettelyoun, Wm G. Bullock, Seth Ward, beef contractor John Finn, and one unidentified white man.
The same photo is reproduced in William J. Bordeaux's Conquering the Mighty Sioux, p. 176, with id's suspiciously similar to what you've written: Chief Conquering Bear, James Bordeaux,Isaac Bettelyon, White Bird, Joseph Prue, Todd Randall, James Reshaw, Sitting Thigh and John Bordeaux.
This is an interesting photo by Alexander Gardner, taken in 1868 at Fort Laramie. Obviously it shows some white and half-Indian men with their Indian families during the days of treaty negotiations. There are many photographs by Gardner, but only a few have detailed identifications of the individuals in the pictures.
New scans in the Edward E. Ayer collection at the Newberry Library of Chicago provide additional information on some photos by Gardner. On the back of this photograph we find a list of identifications by M. Camp, I suppose Walter Mason Camp, written in 1919.
Does anyone have detailed information on how Camp obtained his identifications? I think to remember he showed photos to old people on the reservations.
Narcisse Moran (aka Moreau) was an Indian trader, son of a white father and an Indian mother. His daughter Julia married Antoine DuBray, his daughter Louise married George D. Huggins. Sophia Moran was the name of his wife.
Charles Gerue (aka Garreau etc.) acted as Special Indian interpreter for the Peace Commission at Fort Laramie in 1868. His name (as Charles E. Guern) is recorded on the treaty document as a witness. He also travelled to Washington with the Spotted Tail Lakota delegation in 1870 as interpreter.
Post by kingsleybray on Nov 12, 2015 18:19:42 GMT -5
Some of these women and their families are recorded in the Red Cloud Agency censuses for 1876-77 (published as The Crazy Horse Surrender Ledger).
In November 1876 Mr[s?] Moran and Mrs Huggins lived in adjoining tipi households in the Oglala Kiyuksa band (see p. 28).
In February 1877 they are counted in Young Man Afraid of His Horse's band (the Payabya band: see pages 61-62). Mrs Moran is noted as a widow and lives next to the tipi of her three sons Louis, Charles and Joe. Nearby is Mrs Huggins (i.e. Mrs Moran's married daughter Louise) and also Mrs Bridgeman (Charles Gueru's daughter Mollie). The fact that Mollie Bridgeman is living near the Moran girls nine years after the photo Dietmar reproduced is a strong indicator that the families were related to begin with - perhaps their mothers were sisters or cousins.
These men appear in other photos Gardner took at Ft. Laramie. Here´s one where they are on horseback, Gerue/Gueru on left and Colhoff on right. The man in the middle does seem to me like a half-breed, but he´s not Moran. Note the dog is possibly the same as in the family photo above:
The rifleman could be a fullblood as well, yes. Hard to say. He´s completely wearing “white” clothes, not as usual combined with leggings, a blanket or something. The hair is cut short, too. Too bad we don´t know who he is.
Some more comments on Gueru and Colhoff:
Indian Agent Poole, who travelled with him to Washington in 1870, called Gueru „a Frenchman from France“ (not Canada!), “who had long been associated with the Sioux, having first come among them under the auspices of the old North-Western Fur Company. He was perfectly familiar with their language and customs, and, having married a Brulé Sioux woman, was looked upon as belonging to that band.” (see: page 135, “Among the Sioux of Dakota” by D.C.Poole)
From the Eli S. Ricker interviews we learn that he was in the Fort Laramie area as early as 1854. He then worked as a clerk and interpreter for the American Fur Company and witnessed the Grattan Affair.
George Colhoff came to the West as a member of the 5th U.S. regiment of “galvanized Yankees”, who were ex-Confederate soldiers. He arrived at Fort Laramie on November 14th, 1865. He later worked as a store clerk near Fort Laramie and then Fort Robinson, beside other temporary jobs.
...and here are they again. Note the man sitting in the center with white hat. He is also in the picture above with several families, standing beside Charles Gerue. I guess from that we can assume he is also a so-called "squawman", married to Lakota woman.
It mentions among others M. T. Patrick, the Upper Platte Indian Agent in 1866-68. I can't tell the context, but I was struck by the resemblance of the man at centre and his neatly trimmed beard, to a photo (date not known to me) of Agent Patrick. Here is a link to a page with the picture:
This is my friend Gregor´s book, who is a member here. The text doesn´t say that M.T. Patrick is in the photo, but just cites him. Patrick in 1868 stated, that there were nearly 600 halfbreed families around Fort Laramie.
Post by kingsleybray on Nov 13, 2015 10:11:01 GMT -5
right -- so Patrick is a maybe. But the fellow does look kind of official, if you know what I mean.
About the Indian or half breed with Colhoff in two pictures. It might be tempting to suggest a connection to Colhoff -- father-in-law? brother-in-law? But I'm not sure when Colhoff married. Son John wasn't born til 1880. In a letter to my friend Joe Balmer in 1948, John Colhoff talks about "My grandfather Shield, or Hand, the name Hand which he gave when he enlisted as a U.S. scout, his half brother was a half French, name Baptiste Garnier, also known as Little Bat. Their brother in law's name was Plenty Wolves, also known as Yankton Charley". I don't mean the pictured man has to be Shield, just a remote possibility.