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Post by miyelo on Mar 9, 2009 11:54:17 GMT -5
Hau Everyone
I am looking on any/all info/photos on Fool Bull...I am close to a hunka of his family and wondering what kind of info/photos are floating around out there. Of course we have the famous Anderson shot of him, but any others?
thanks for any and all info
Anpetu Was'te
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Post by Dietmar on Mar 9, 2009 15:06:08 GMT -5
Miyelo, the only photographs of Fool Bull I am aware of are the ones taken by Anderson:  Fool Bull by John A. Anderson  Fool Bull by John A. Anderson According to photographer John A. Anderson the war shield Fool Bull is wearing in the photograph is the one he carried in the Custer battle." Allen Chronister described the photograph in Whispering Wind Magazine (Nov-Dec 2007): “A portrait of Fool Bull (Tatanka Witko) also taken in 1900. His shield may be an actual old war shield, it at least has a buckskin cover and not a muslin one like so many created during this period. Across his lap is a serrated whip made from a section of milled board, which he is holding by a fox or coyote skin wrist strap. This whip could have been related to his status as a Grass Dance whip man or to his membership in a warrior society. His claw necklace seems to be made of claws made from some material such as hoof or antler.” Claes H. Jacobson has some info on Fool Bull in his book "Rosebud Sioux": “Fool Bull
Tatanko Witko 1844 - 1909
Fool Bull was a medicine man among the Brule Sioux. In his youth he had taken part in the so-called Sioux Massacre of Pawnees in 1873. During the battle Fool Bull was injured after a boy had fired at him with a pistol - point blank. It knocked out his eyesight and it took several month before the powder burns healed. Fool Bull was also a participant in the battle of Little Big Horn in 1876.
He had two wives, Red Crane and Getting Around. When he died on December 20, 1909 he was a widower. His sons were Richard b. 1887 and John b. 1889.” According to Mary and Leonard Crow Dog, their family was related to the Fool Bulls: “Old Grandpa Fool Bull was the last man to make flutes and play them, the old-style flutes in the shape of a bird's head which had the elk power, the power to lure a young girl into a man's blanket.” This statement is probably referring to Richard Fool Bull, who was famous for his flute-making. |
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Post by kingsleybray on Mar 9, 2009 15:54:21 GMT -5
Rosebud historian Victor Douville told me in 2001 that the Fool Bull family settled near Parmelee and was identified with the Chokatowela band of Brules. Originally this name meant Middle Village, and was synonymous with the Sichangu (Burnt Thigh) proper, the conceptual parent-band of the Brule tribe. According to the tribal camp-circle data obtained by missionaries in the early 1880s, the band occupied the south horn of the circle. In both the Lower and Upper Brule tribal divisions, sister-bands derived from the old Middle Village band occupied this segment of the circle.
Again according to Victor there was a family connection between the Fool Bulls and the earlier chief called Mad Bull (Tatanka Gnashkinyan), prominent in the 1825-45 period. He signed the Atkinson-O'Fallon Treaty in 1825, as first Brule signatory. Trader Rufus Sage refers to him as a leader in the Brule winter camps along Chadron Creek in winter 1841-42. He receipted for some goods obtained from Indian agent Andrew Drips on White River in fall 1844. He evidently died not long after that time.
I'm afraid I can't tell you any more about Fool Bull himself than what Dietmar has posted.
Best Wishes
Kingsley
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Post by miyelo on Mar 9, 2009 19:35:34 GMT -5
Duh. I should just go over and see Victor. I didn't think of that! Thanks Kingsley and Deitmar. The Fool Bull family still lives there near Parmelee. They know alot but I was wondering what you guys may have gathered. I have never seen that second photo so wopila Deitmar! I will print that for them. The last Grandpa Fool Bull gave my friend the name ''Tatanka Hoksila" meaning ''Buffalo Boy" and he gave him the old Fool Bull's walking cane. It is something. We are starting a foundation called ''Tatanka Hoksila" and I was just looking for some more info.
I hope you are both doing well and thanks again.
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Post by miyelo on Mar 9, 2009 19:40:16 GMT -5
btw....that shield and his necklace are in the Journey Museum in Rapid City if anyone comes here.
also....don't believe anything Mary ''Crow Dog" says...
did i say that out loud?? hahaha
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Post by Dietmar on Mar 10, 2009 17:24:04 GMT -5
Here is a photo of Fool Bull´s shield Henri took at the Journey Museum in Rapid City:  Thanks Henri! |
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Post by wolfgang911 on Mar 11, 2009 17:29:12 GMT -5
wow that fool bull was a giant! look at the shield size next to the costumes! ok sorry  just kidding for my first message on this board. did not see a place to introduce myself so... I love your subjects and missed on hours of sleep already thanks to your interesting topics. For the moment just reading and astounded by the enormous information gathered here by some genuine genealogic experts. all the best from france |
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Post by Diane Merkel on Mar 12, 2009 15:39:12 GMT -5
It's nice to have you here, Wolfgang. We can always use more humor!  |
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Post by Historian on Mar 15, 2009 23:30:31 GMT -5
FYI
Fool Bull is wearing a necklace of Grizzly Bear claws.
He holds a horse quirt or whip, with a serated edge which represents a lightning bolt. This "badge of office" shows that he held a honored and prestigious position as one of four "whip bearers" in a particular warrior society. Whip bearers were tasked with maintaining proper order and conduct among it's members. The fox pelt with tail hanging from the wrist-loop of the whip indicates that the society was the Tokala, or the Kit Fox society.
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Post by john on Jul 5, 2010 13:00:27 GMT -5
I AM A DESCENDANT OF FOOL BULL AND HE IS BURIED NORTH OF WOOD SOUTH DAKOTA WITH HIS FIRST WIFE RED CANE I KNOW HIS HISTORY BUT THE ONE QUESTION I HAD IS WHAT WAS HIS FATHERS NAME. IF ANYONE CAN HELP ME WITH THAT NAME IT WOULD BE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.??
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Post by Dietmar on Jul 6, 2010 6:59:50 GMT -5
Welcome john,
nice to have you here. Unfortunately I can´t answer your question, but I hope others will.
Best wishes
Dietmar
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Post by john on Jul 7, 2010 9:12:08 GMT -5
I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT VICTOR DOUVILLE'S COMMENTS AND IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THE CHIEF MAD BULL THAT HE TALKS OF IS HIS DAD BUT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN A ORPHAN IF CHIEF MAD BULL DIED IN THE 1840'S. I KNOW THAT FOOL BULL MOVED AROUND A LOT AND LIVED IN MINNESOTA DURING THE MINNESOTA SIOUX UPRISING AND LATER MOVED WEST FINALLY REACHING THE ROSEBUD RESERVATION WHERE HE MARRIED HIS SECOND WIFE GETTING AROUND THE WHITE BANK WHO IS BURIED AT THE ST FRANCIS SD CEMETARY. PERHAPS HIS FIRST WIFE IS A WAHPETON SIOUX FROM MINNESOTA?? MUST HAVE BEEN A LOT OF MOVING AROUND IN HIS LIFE.
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Post by miyelo on Jul 7, 2010 19:51:11 GMT -5
John....I can get you his name from his grandson, will let you know soon.
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Post by john on Jul 8, 2010 8:34:37 GMT -5
MIYELO I HAVE TALKED TO HIS GRANDSONS THEY ARE NOT SURE OF WHAT FOOL BULL DAD'S NAME IS BUT YOU CAN TRY OF COURSE THEY WOULD BE FOOL BULL'S GREAT GRANDSONS NOT GRANDSONS AND EVEN GREAT GREAT GRANDSONS LATER
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Post by Dietmar on Aug 17, 2010 2:54:34 GMT -5
Brandon Borgelt is a bronze sculptor living in South Africa. He felt inspired to do a life size bronze bust of Fool Bull. He has sent me these photos and hopes that descendants or anyone else who may be interested become aware of it. Fool Bull by Brandon Borgelt:    |
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just kidding for my first message on this board. did not see a place to introduce myself so... 
