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Post by timjoe on Jan 17, 2017 21:31:29 GMT -5
Jeroen, from what I know this is a portrait of Poor Bear, Kiowa-Apache chief, and Caddo Jake, both part of the Southern Plains delegation in 1863 to Washington. Which leads me to the conclusion that the portrait of Satank, which is published in numerous books and all across the internet is perhaps not him but also Poor Bear. At least this is stuff for discussion (I remember I chatted with Grahame about it in another thread). William S. Soule selled the portrait as one of his own photographs, but perhaps he just copied it from one of the earlier delegation pictures. I know that would be kind of disappointing, because it would mean there is no authentic portrait of Satank. Any opinions? There is one clue here. The Moccasins, they are Kiowa Mocs.
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Post by timjoe on Jan 17, 2017 21:35:18 GMT -5
There is a clue in the Satank / Poor Bear Photo. The Moccasins he has on are Kiowa.
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Post by Dietmar on Jan 20, 2017 10:39:10 GMT -5
Welcome timjoe,
and thank you for your comment. Do you mean that it would disqualify Poor Bear? I think the Plains-/Kiowa-Apaches had become very close to the Kiowas in the 19th century. But I must admit I´m not an expert on Indian material culture.
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Post by grahamew on Apr 26, 2020 14:37:51 GMT -5
Kiowa Agency, 1904:
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Post by Dietmar on Apr 26, 2020 16:12:42 GMT -5
This is an interesting photo, with so many prominent men of the Southern Plains like Quanah and Lone Wolf II in it.
Note that this is one of the few pictures that shows Eschiti, better known as Isatai, the Comanche who is famous for his role in the Adobe Walls battle of 1874.
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