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Post by gorkinoff on Dec 7, 2008 4:34:33 GMT -5
The obvious one is Inkpaduta and his band of Wahpekute (leaf shooters)...One of his sons (Sounds The Ground As He Walks) was known to have stolen Custers horse...
Inkpa=point, top Duta=red/scarlet
Another that may have been there according to Mark Dietrich in his book Dakota Oratory (1989) is Wakiyaska (White Lodge) Sisseton Chief...
Wakiyaska actually translates to White Thunder...
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Post by louisgarcia on Mar 20, 2009 12:51:57 GMT -5
gorkinoff: i think you were mislead by the miss-spelling of the leaders name. Wakeyaska = White Lodge. Wakeya is the official name of the conical tent now known as a tipi. Wakinyanska = White Thunder
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Post by Mitchell BigHunter on Mar 30, 2021 3:26:32 GMT -5
All the info gathered I think there was 50-couple hundred warriors but could be even more, at the bighorn from the British line after exile, Probably much more before the BigHorn. A group that worked as one. I found they executed Charges and dismounting to shoot, Ohiyesa said one battle they dug trenches used battle tactics, There were counter attack's, Decoy maneuvers. These warriors were bred for war also like any other Red Brother and Sisters. following in their teachers footsteps. The Santee were camped furthest south east and ambushed reno and charged at Custer killing him in first charge after that his men scattered, Killing the last in a ravine. There's lots of people that get down to the milli-second of the battle but it was not meant to be looked through the magnified glass, Oral is good enough. There are great narratives left by the Sioux tribe that no one brought to light for a long time. I have them all here in front of me and in any court case today, It would win. right down to the hair cut and shot two times. The historians got some information wrong I'm sure if they had digitized files today they would have compared the info alot better. The Exiled Santee weren't able to claim the feather for the kills because it woulda killed us. Wopida for all the ones that came forward and took the heat off with out that we would have been dead. But from what i heard the British when they found the Sioux with all the 7th cavalry items they wrote it off as spoils of war. After the battle of 1876 the following year rev Riggs and Williamson started a church Called Pahacokamya Birdtail Creek Manitoba. I think that's how the exile weren't pursued the help of the missionaries. Dr. Thomas Millman assistant surgeon wrote in his diary not far from Turtle Mountain 1872-73 he met a band of 50 Santee. I suggest these are or some of the Warriors at the BigHorn from Exile. Help me tell the story of why they had to fight. Wopida Tanka. Mitchell BigHunter.
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Post by cinye80 on Apr 1, 2021 9:26:08 GMT -5
Hau Michael Mitunska: Floyd Westerman is my deceased mother-in law's nephew. My wife played with Floyd as a little girl, Floyd remembered her old sister better when he came here to Spirit Lake on his last visit. His brother Cecil lives here. Another brother Chris (1934 - 2009) passed away. Floyd Westerman (1936 -2007) played Ten Bear in the film Dances with Wolves. he was the only male who could talk Dakota (Lakota for the film). He is the great great grandson of Kangiduta (Scarlet Raven) who was killed in Washington, D.C. in 1867 as part of the delegation. There seems to be no photo of him, unless it is buried in the archives in Washington. Floyds mother was Emily Adams from Sisseton, SD who was killed by her second husband. His father a Westerman, i don't know anything about. He miye do, Niatkuku, Cinye80
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Post by Mitchell BigHunter on Apr 1, 2021 18:09:25 GMT -5
Respect Louis and yours. We will keep your word going. Hope you can come visit up in Manitoba soon.
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Post by Mitchell BigHunter on Apr 8, 2021 23:28:36 GMT -5
All the info gathered I think there was 40 to 50 warriors at the bighorn from the British line after exile, Probably alot much more before the bighorn. A group that worked as one. I found they executed Charges and dismounting to shoot, Ohiyesa said one battle they dug trenches used battle tactics, There were counter attack's, Decoy maneuvers. These warriors were bred for war also like any other Red Brother and Sisters. following in their teachers footsteps. The Santee were camped furthest south east and ambushed reno and charged at Custer killing him in first charge after that his men scattered, Killing the last in a ravine. There's lots of people that get down to the milli-second of the battle but it was not meant to be looked through the magnified glass, Oral is good enough. There are great narratives left by the Sioux tribe that no one brought to light for a long time. I have them all here in front of me and in any court case today, It would win. right down to the hair cut and shot two times. The historians got some information wrong I'm sure if they had digitized files today they would have compared the info alot better. The Exiled Santee weren't able to claim the feather for the kills because it woulda killed us. Wopida for all the ones that came forward and took the heat off with out that we would have been dead. But from what i heard the British when they found the Sioux with all the 7th cavalry items they wrote it off as spoils of war. After the battle of 1876 the following year rev Riggs and Williamson started a church Called Pahacokamya Birdtail Creek Manitoba. I think that's how the exile weren't pursued the help of the missionaries. Dr. Thomas Millman assistant surgeon wrote in his diary not far from Turtle Mountain 1872-73 he met a band of 50 Santee. I suggest these are or some of the Warriors at the BigHorn from Exile. Help me tell the story of why they had to fight. Wopida Tanka. Mitchell BigHunter. View AttachmentView AttachmentView AttachmentView AttachmentView Attachment www.mhs.mb.ca/docs/sites/fleeislandentrenchments.shtml
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Post by Mitchell BigHunter on Apr 11, 2021 1:16:41 GMT -5
Annual report Manitoba Canada. It would have Been a deadlier fight. Aug.4. 1876.<Annual report. Ohiyesa wrote, It was accustomed to leave yearly after 62 to attack any sort of wasicu. Hoka hey, they crossed the border at night. but they didn't have many Mounties back then, would have been easily undetected ride. I found other narratives similar to being detained, I'm guessing it was the exiled Heroes. Canupawakpa-Pipestone Creek Sioux Manitoba <Oral History past down.
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Post by Mitchell BigHunter on Apr 11, 2021 2:22:09 GMT -5
Our Unkan said some good words that made me feel proud. I only want the Santee Sioux story to come out and My Unkan has taught me so much. He sent me a message i wanted to share.
Hau Mitunska Cody:
Thank you for sending me pictures of your family.
I was looking through my photos and I have a whole bunch of Bdecan Church photos.
Here is one.
I also attached two of my Messages about my Wife’s family.
You have a nice family and I am glad you are taking care of them.
Everything is going up in prices and it is hard to pay for all the everyday things one needs.
My wife and I also have a large family surrounding us. We see some of them once a week.
I had a digital camera, but I can’t find it. So I can’t send photos other than what is in my computer.
On American Tribes you mention how the Dakota fought at the battle of the Little Big Horn.
We have to way back into history. The dakota fought for the Sahdasa (British) in at least two wars.
The American Revolution and the war of 1812.
The dakota were fighting alongside of regular well trained soldiers and generals.
They learned how the white man fought using battle tactics unknown to the Dakota.
So when the Americans fought the Dakota, they knew how they were going to fight and out smarted the Americans.
In turn they taught the Titun (Teton) people some of the ways to fight.
However after Custer things went downhill, no buffalo, whites everywhere.
I am so proud of you taking an interest in the Dakota. Digging out all this information,
and showing these historians they missed up in many history books.
Keep up the good work,
Hemiye Niunkana,
Louie
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Post by Mitchell BigHunter on Apr 13, 2021 13:49:01 GMT -5
All the info gathered I think there was 40 to 50 warriors at the bighorn from the British line after exile, Probably alot much more before the bighorn. A group that worked as one. I found they executed Charges and dismounting to shoot, Ohiyesa said one battle they dug trenches used battle tactics, There were counter attack's, Decoy maneuvers. These warriors were bred for war also like any other Red Brother and Sisters. following in their teachers footsteps. The Santee were camped furthest south east and ambushed reno and charged at Custer killing him in first charge after that his men scattered, Killing the last in a ravine. There's lots of people that get down to the milli-second of the battle but it was not meant to be looked through the magnified glass, Oral is good enough. There are great narratives left by the Sioux tribe that no one brought to light for a long time. I have them all here in front of me and in any court case today, It would win. right down to the hair cut and shot two times. The historians got some information wrong I'm sure if they had digitized files today they would have compared the info alot better. The Exiled Santee weren't able to claim the feather for the kills because it woulda killed us. Wopida for all the ones that came forward and took the heat off with out that we would have been dead. But from what i heard the British when they found the Sioux with all the 7th cavalry items they wrote it off as spoils of war. After the battle of 1876 the following year rev Riggs and Williamson started a church Called Pahacokamya Birdtail Creek Manitoba. I think that's how the exile weren't pursued the help of the missionaries. Dr. Thomas Millman assistant surgeon wrote in his diary not far from Turtle Mountain 1872-73 he met a band of 50 Santee. I suggest these are or some of the Warriors at the BigHorn from Exile. Help me tell the story of why they had to fight. Wopida Tanka. Mitchell BigHunter. View AttachmentView AttachmentView AttachmentView AttachmentView Attachment www.mhs.mb.ca/docs/sites/fleeislandentrenchments.shtmlView AttachmentView AttachmentView AttachmentView AttachmentThese are the three best narratives but there are more. I tried tracking down Big Shoulder But found another woman at the same location Called " Grey-Track" and in the census her child's name is Many-lightnings. Does anyone have any info about this family at Fort Totten? >
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Post by cinye80 on Apr 13, 2021 15:09:49 GMT -5
Hau Kodapi: To answer the question about Big Shoulder Woman: Abdotankawin. I wish I had more information about her. She is not on the Spirit Lake Nation Roll. The following people enrolled at Spirit lake, but had their allotment cancelled when it was discovered they were in Canada. Date 1905.
1118 Thomas Buhinhda (making a heavy sound) also known as Thomas Thunder. 1119 Tiyowastewin (pretty or Nice in her Lodge).
1101 Wambditowin (Blue eagle Woman) Oak Lake Dakota 1102 Thomas kasto (Combing hair) Oak Lake 110 Hicahewicayena (To trip someone) also known as Willie kasto. Oak lake 1099 Hetahuna (Bottom of a Mountain) Oak lake. 1098 Sungode (horse Track) Oak lake 1097 Wicitewin (Woman with a human face) Mrs. Maggie Kasto. Oak lake 1096 Kasto (hair Cut) Oak lake There are no probate on file, refer to Canadian archives.
1022 Oyehotewin (Grey Track Woman) Amy Grey Track 1857 - 1911. De miye Cinye80
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Post by Mitchell BigHunter on Apr 13, 2021 21:03:28 GMT -5
Hau Kodapi: To answer the question about Big Shoulder Woman: Abdotankawin. I wish I had more information about her. She is not on the Spirit Lake Nation Roll. The following people enrolled at Spirit lake, but had their allotment cancelled when it was discovered they were in Canada. Date 1905. 1118 Thomas Buhinhda (making a heavy sound) also known as Thomas Thunder. 1119 Tiyowastewin (pretty or Nice in her Lodge). 1101 Wambditowin (Blue eagle Woman) Oak Lake Dakota 1102 Thomas kasto (Combing hair) Oak Lake 110 Hicahewicayena (To trip someone) also known as Willie kasto. Oak lake 1099 Hetahuna (Bottom of a Mountain) Oak lake. 1098 Sungode (horse Track) Oak lake 1097 Wicitewin (Woman with a human face) Mrs. Maggie Kasto. Oak lake 1096 Kasto (hair Cut) Oak lake There are no probate on file, refer to Canadian archives. 1022 Oyehotewin (Grey Track Woman) Amy Grey Track 1857 - 1911. De miye Cinye80 Hau, I must have been mistaken but there is another one also with the same name i forget which reserve. wonder if they could be related or just have the same name. I think the second Oye Hote win were the kids with Many lightnings. Is there any family living today in Fort Totten that know if they could be the daughters of grey track? Mitchell.
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Post by Mitchell BigHunter on Apr 15, 2021 1:00:18 GMT -5
Keyapi Wa'ste. > - TRANSLATION DONE BY: JOSH WYATT. - SISSETON WAHPETON COLLEGE. Okay here's my interpretation of the letter. I'm sure it's not perfect, but it's what I got. Makoce deci ikcewicaṡta token wicoḣ’aŋ waŋke oŋṡpa cistiŋna ociciyakapi waciŋ. I’d like to tell you a little bit about what the Indian’s activities are like over here. Ikcewicaṡta taku uŋkiwaṡtepi ṡni wake. I mean what isn’t good for Indian people. Tona woope opapi kta kecaŋmi. I think several will join the law [i.e abide by the law] Uŋkaŋ tona hececapi hena ie s’a hecapi k’a eciŋṡniyaŋ ecuŋpi. And then some who are like that are loudmouths and they do [things] incorrectly. Uŋkaŋ koṡka waŋ waṡte k’a ie s’a ṡni. And one young man is good and he doesn’t talk too often. Taku waṡte k’a taku owotaŋna eceedan ecuŋ uŋ kiŋ he waciŋyaŋpi cee. They depend upon the one who lives only doing what is good and what is upright. Hecen iweciyukcaŋ. That’s how I think about his [conduct]. Tuwe woope opa eṡta ie s’a tiiyaza aye ṡni. Even though somebody has joined the law, the loudmouth takes him from house to house. Woṡica kaġa hecen iweciyukcaŋ. I think that his [conduct] makes trouble. Uŋkaŋ nakaha makoce kiŋ den koṡka nuŋm kiciktepi. And two young men just recently killed one another here [in] this area. Uŋkaŋ ie s’a heca ktepi. And a loudmouth was killed [also]. Napiŋ taŋyaŋ tipi. They both lived well. Taku wokażużu akinicapi kiciktepi. They killed one another arguing over some payment. Tuka hehaŋn ie s’a wicaṡta hena wocekiya opapi tuka he wicayaececapi. Those loud-mouthed men joined church but they talked them into it. Kiciktewicayapi. They made them kill each other. Hehaŋn ehaŋtaŋhaŋ waŋna waniyetu he wiyoḣpeyata Ḣeska kiŋ itahena Pahiŋskaska ktepi . Then they had already killed Custer [that] winter on this side of the Rocky Mountains in the West. Nakaŋḣ makoce den ni uŋ do. He is now living in this area. Koṡka kiŋ Oyemakasaŋ eciyapi k’a atkuku kiŋ Wakpiyuweġe eciyapi do. The young man is named Grey Earth Track and his dad is named Crossed-the-River. Eya de woyakapi kiŋ decen eyapi heuŋ omdake. Well they tell the story like this so I told it. Koda, caŋtewaṡteya napeciyuze. Friend, I shake your hand with a good heart. Charles Ciwuyuksa Onażica Etaŋhaŋ Pipestone Creek Manitoba March 26, 1906 Attachments:
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Post by chicheman on Apr 15, 2021 5:39:23 GMT -5
Wopida Mitchell, for sharing all those articles, very great ! Best over the pond from Germany !
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Post by Mitchell BigHunter on Jan 13, 2022 11:42:20 GMT -5
All the info gathered I think there was 40 to 50 warriors at the bighorn from the British line after exile, Probably alot much more before the bighorn. A group that worked as one. I found they executed Charges and dismounting to shoot, Ohiyesa said one battle they dug trenches used battle tactics, There were counter attack's, Decoy maneuvers. These warriors were bred for war also like any other Red Brother and Sisters. following in their teachers footsteps. The Santee were camped furthest south east and ambushed reno and charged at Custer killing him in first charge after that his men scattered, Killing the last in a ravine. There's lots of people that get down to the milli-second of the battle but it was not meant to be looked through the magnified glass, Oral is good enough. There are great narratives left by the Sioux tribe that no one brought to light for a long time. I have them all here in front of me and in any court case today, It would win. right down to the hair cut and shot two times. The historians got some information wrong I'm sure if they had digitized files today they would have compared the info alot better. The Exiled Santee weren't able to claim the feather for the kills because it woulda killed us. Wopida for all the ones that came forward and took the heat off with out that we would have been dead. But from what i heard the British when they found the Sioux with all the 7th cavalry items they wrote it off as spoils of war. After the battle of 1876 the following year rev Riggs and Williamson started a church Called Pahacokamya Birdtail Creek Manitoba. I think that's how the exile weren't pursued the help of the missionaries. Dr. Thomas Millman assistant surgeon wrote in his diary not far from Turtle Mountain 1872-73 he met a band of 50 Santee. I suggest these are or some of the Warriors at the BigHorn from Exile. Help me tell the story of why they had to fight. Wopida Tanka. Mitchell BigHunter. <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button><button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button><button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button><button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> www.mhs.mb.ca/docs/sites/fleeislandentrenchments.shtml<button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted </button> Story about the Red Lake Ojibway fight with the Sioux from the book footsteps through the years Manitoba.
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Post by Mitchell BigHunter on Jan 26, 2022 0:03:22 GMT -5
Jessie Wakpa was Oyemakasan Cousin. Ohiyesa left his nick name OyeHota.
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