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Post by Dietmar on Feb 12, 2013 8:28:16 GMT -5
Grahame,
great pictures, I missed them somehow. I´m pretty sure the man with the goggles is Chief Iron Nation, Lower Brule. That would match perfectly Handsome Elk´s picture, which is also of a Lower Brule leader. I´m pretty sure I´ve seen the man with the crutch before, but I´ll have to think about it...
Thanks Dietmar
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Post by grahamew on Feb 12, 2013 14:28:13 GMT -5
Thanks. I think I know him too, but I don't know where I've seen him. Could he be Medicine Bull? I think he left for Rosebud in 1896 Hmmm. Maybe not... When was the Bell Studio photo of Handsome Elk taken? 1880? 1881? This looks like it's from several years later - although Iron Nation died in 1894, I think. This must be a reasonably contemporaneous photo of Iron Nation. Ah, but I think this one seals it - he seems to be wearing the same moccasins! Date is 1890! They're from a forthcoming auction, so I expect more pictures to be added later, and, the site says, more info - although this doesn't always appear to be the case..
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Post by grahamew on Apr 27, 2013 3:35:12 GMT -5
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Post by tkavanagh on Apr 27, 2013 18:26:07 GMT -5
Any one know anything about the cane Iron Nation is holding in the census report pix?
tk
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Post by grahamew on Apr 28, 2013 3:13:59 GMT -5
The identity of the man with the club is now being given as Pretty Voice Hawk; the man with the hat and crutch is 'Chief Hunkton, a Sioux doctor'; Iron Nation is 'Oldest Sioux Chief - Lower Brule'; the young man is Bad Horse.
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Post by Dietmar on Apr 29, 2013 12:29:36 GMT -5
According to Heritage Auctions the images bear the stamp of Stair's Photo Studio, So. Main St., Mitchell, S. D. on verso. This must be Lawrence E. Stair, who had a photography studio at 113 S. Main Street in Mitchell. The question is if he has taken more Indian portraits.
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Post by grahamew on Nov 11, 2013 16:08:35 GMT -5
A few more - largely from ebay... Bear Comes Back Again Unidentified group A Grabill/Trager, circa 1890, I think I'm guessing this is a Wild West Show participant Taken by A Russoff of Port Richmond - another Wild West Show participant An Ingersoll photo, probably dating from at least the mid 1880s. Interesting how the man with the claw necklace looks like he's stepped out of a delegation photo from over 25 years earlier "Big John - Miss Hansen - Ke ma ome" Photo by J Bonny, Minnesota; identified as 'Sioux.' Another, by the same photographer; also "Sioux." ? And in case you missed it from the Gilbert thread: Letty (?) Bull - an early Gilbert; same backdrop as his Crow King photo. A recently surrendered Lakota?
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Post by emilylevine on Nov 11, 2013 23:31:25 GMT -5
I believe the one labeled Red Cloud is Tamahe. (See Waggoner, Witness and Eastman, Indian Heroes and Great Chieftains.)
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Post by grahamew on Nov 12, 2013 2:14:40 GMT -5
So it is! And I'm staring at that page right now! Thanks, Emily.
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Post by grahamew on Nov 12, 2013 18:42:32 GMT -5
One Star, Lakota I think not! Lakota? Lone something; Dakota The Man Who Spits As He Walks (ca 1865), Dakota? I wonder if the Ingersoll photo three posts above was taken at The St Paul Winter Ice Carnival... There are HH Bennett photos taken of Dakotas at the carnival, wearing similar clothing (and gloves!). Makes sense that Ingersoll would've been there too - and the first one was in 1886, the probable date of the Bennett photos. Here are the Bennett photos I know of:
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Post by grahamew on Nov 14, 2013 15:51:32 GMT -5
Is this THE Red Skirt?
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Post by grahamew on Dec 15, 2013 12:02:12 GMT -5
I'm sure I have other photos of Dakotas at the Winter Ice Carnival. Here's another Ingersoll, dated 1888, thus dating the original photo because this man is present, dressed in the same manner:
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Post by grahamew on Dec 16, 2013 14:21:45 GMT -5
Not sure if this is the correct thread for this, but here's Red Skirt and Bear Eagle: Picture and quote from Our Own Country, by James Cox, St. Louis, MO, published 1894, pages 12 - 14. "While in the Dakota region acquaintance will be made with members of the Indian police force of the government. Our camera has secured excellent portraits of some of these "preservers of the peace," and incidentally has enabled the subscriber to "Our Own Country" to see side by side Indians in various grades of civilization. In the illustration on page 12 there are in the foreground two remnants of the fading race" who are clothed and in their right minds, with a costume resembling in every detail that worn by the white settler and citizen. In the center of the group "Red Shirt" and "Bear Eagle" are depicted in a garb which is somewhat of a compromise between the traditional blanket and more conventional clothing. A great difference will be observed in the way in which the hair is cut and combed. The most difficult task of the teacher consists in convincing the Indian of the comfort and cleanliness of the modern style of cutting the hair, and it is a discouraging fact that of the thousands of Indian children who pass through training schools, but a few hundred can resist the temptation of letting their locks grow in tangled dirtiness after their return to their tribes." cherryteatime.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Native%20American%20TribesText says Red Shirt; inscription on photo says Red Skirt - and it does seem to be him.
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Post by grahamew on Apr 12, 2015 5:23:34 GMT -5
Three photos from one lot on an auction site. No context or time frame. The text on the reverse has been 'deciphered' as - Ki-Kiou-Kalitoo Star of the Cheyenne Indians Likewise - Strick Faree, Yankton Sioux Unidentified
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Post by Dietmar on Apr 13, 2015 10:58:47 GMT -5
The last photo looks like one of the Ponca delegates in the 1880s.
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