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Post by grahamew on Jun 20, 2022 9:24:15 GMT -5
Photo by B.F. Ray in Rushville:   Red Shirt and American Horse  Rocky Bear  Long Bull  Not sure who the white guys near Red Shirt are. Does that man have a pierced nose?  Rushville again; not sure about the exact location or photographer.  Guessing there's some connection to the Wild West Show - here's Iron Tail, who joined in 1897. The white man in the spectacles may be the same man kneeling close to Red Shirt in the first photo. Edit: I think that's James Asay, owner of a store in Rushville. See posts below.  Sam Lone Bear in the centre   |
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Post by Californian on Jun 20, 2022 10:11:14 GMT -5
hi Grahame, a great image, where did you find it? If I am not mistaken, next to Iron Tail is William Sitting Bull click onto image to enlarge click onto image to enlarge
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Post by grahamew on Jun 20, 2022 13:18:24 GMT -5
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Post by grahamew on Jun 21, 2022 9:09:31 GMT -5
Here's an image I've posted before - a little earlier than the photos above:  Buffalo Bill's Wild West Entourage in front of the Asay Store, Rushville, Nebraska, April 21, 1893 Sadly, it appears to be only part of the photo.  That looks like Standing Bear kneeling at left, wearing goggles. No4. 4 is American Horse; No. 8 is Red Cloud or is it Jack?  Another early view of the west side of Main Street. Pre-1909 The store in the center of the photo is the original Asay Store. Buffalo Bill would recruit people from the Pine Ridge reservation for his Wild West Show and pay them in scrip from Asay's Store.  Asays' Store, Second and Main Street - facing west. Arrow points to J.C. Ward. Taken about 1900 sites.google.com/site/hindmanhistory/rushville-main-street Snyder had been associated with the Wild West Show since at least 1887. Judging by the way Red Cloud looks, I'd say this is circa 1900. Asay was a Wild West show recruiter, based in Rushville, who also owned a store where the Indians could exchange their pay for goods. Liddiard, I think, performed a similar function and was known as Rattlesnake Pete - possibly not a compliment.  Alternate photo from same day. Asay's trading post on Pine Ridge was a gathering spot for newspaper reporters during the Ghost Dance. William Birdsall, a guide for the army in December 1890, claimed the only truthful newspaper correspondent was Carl Smith of the World-Herald and 'some New York paper;' he said he was crowded out by the others who 'manufactured' war news in the back room of Asay Brothers' store. See Richard E. Jensen (ed.) Voices of the American West Volume 2: The Settler and Soldier Interviews of Eli S. Ricker (University of Nebraska Press, 2005), p.46. Asay also allegedly sold whiskey to the soldiers at Wounded Knee the night before the massacre (pp.288-9; p.293). |
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Post by Dietmar on Jun 21, 2022 11:34:42 GMT -5
Hi Grahame,
Regarding: Asay Store, Rushville, Nebraska, April 21, 1893:
I´d say it is Red Shirt kneeling on left wearing goggles (isn´t there a white No. 5 written on the photo?). Next seems to be American Horse and then Jack Red Cloud.
Most faces are too blurry, I can´t make out Rocky Bear.
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Post by grahamew on Jun 21, 2022 11:58:57 GMT -5
Could be. When I downloaded the image, the file title said it was cropped, so I'd love to see the rest of it. Just contacted the Museum where it's held, so we'll see...
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Post by grahamew on Jun 22, 2022 3:35:48 GMT -5
 Here's a breakdown of the image above.     Ypu'll notice Lone Wolf (here photographed by Ray in Rushville, in the bottom photo standing to the left (that's our left) of the man wearing no shirt) For good measure, here are some more B.F. Ray photos of Lakota in Rushville:  American Horse  Little Wound and American Horse, 1903 |
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Post by Dietmar on Jun 22, 2022 8:37:41 GMT -5
Yep, Lone Wolf.
I think left of Lone Wolf, wearing a buffalo horn bonnet, is Painted Horse... right of him could be Bad Cob (bare-chested).
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Post by grahamew on Jun 22, 2022 8:55:54 GMT -5
I see what you mean about Bad Cob.
You were right about Red Shirt. I've seen the other half of the image and I'm waiting on permission to post it
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Post by grahamew on Jun 22, 2022 9:31:15 GMT -5
 Oglala photographed on Pine Ridge by B.F. Ray. Rocky Bear is kneeling/crouching at left. As far as I can tell, Rocky Bear died in 1909 so the date given here - www.loc.gov/resource/cph.3c15459/ - must be wrong, though it's probably not out by much. |
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Post by Dietmar on Jun 22, 2022 10:01:01 GMT -5
The last photo was probably taken in 1910. The group went to Europe/Germany that year. Rocky Bear isn´t in the picture, it is Little Horse kneeling at left.
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Post by grahamew on Jun 22, 2022 10:23:28 GMT -5
Ah, thanks.
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Post by grahamew on Jun 23, 2022 7:07:01 GMT -5
 Kicking Bear, circa 1900  He Dog's daughter Both by B.F. Ray in Rushville |
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Post by grahamew on Jun 24, 2022 11:29:44 GMT -5
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Post by Dietmar on Jun 26, 2022 5:50:47 GMT -5
 My tentative IDs are: standing 1st from right: Philip Blue Shield standing 3rd from right: Iron Tail sitting 3rd from left: Eagle Elk
As you stated, Grahame, the photo was taken after 1900, maybe around 1905.
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