Henri
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Post by Henri on Sept 24, 2008 14:14:24 GMT -5
While reading the journals of Charles Larpenteur I came across the Yanktonai chief Black Cat Fish. Is there anything documented left of the fellow? He paid Larpenteur a visit in 1864, when Larpenteur was traveling upnorth to Ft.Union.
Henri
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Post by Dietmar on Sept 24, 2008 15:35:54 GMT -5
Black Catfish, Hogan Sapa, was a hereditary leader of the Pabaksa or Cuthead band of Yanktonais. He was the son of the famous chief Waneta, the Charger, and succeeded him, along with his brother Waanatan, who led another band, which later settled at Devils Lake Reservation. According to historian Mark Diedrich Black Catfish died during the winter of 1867/1868 and his son Bear Nose became leader of his Cuthead band.
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Post by louisgarcia on Jan 28, 2009 17:40:39 GMT -5
Hogansapa means a Catfish AKA a Bullhead fish. it does not mean BLACK Catfish.
He died at Ft. Peck Rez (Poplar, Montana).
His brother Red Thunder lived at Standing Rock (Cannonball / Shields, ND area).
The third brother Charger Waanatan as already mention lived here a Spirit Lake (formerly Devils Lake, Ft. Totten Rez).
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Post by Dietmar on Jan 29, 2009 14:41:01 GMT -5
Welcome louisgarcia,
good to have you here. We know too little about the people at Devils Lake. We will be glad to hear more from you!
Unfortunately I only know a few Lakota/Dakota words, but sapa means black, doesn´t it? Does it have a different meaning here? Could you please clarify?
Thanks.
Dietmar
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Post by louisgarcia on Jan 29, 2009 16:34:41 GMT -5
Dietmar:
Hogansapa is a Catfish.
Hogan = fish, sapa = black.
A catfish is Black Fish in Dakota.
We call this species of fish a Bullhead in ND.
heat wave here 7 above, 33 below earlier this week.
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Post by Dietmar on Jan 29, 2009 16:50:01 GMT -5
Thank you... now I got it. Sorry for being so slow...  |
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Post by Dietmar on Sept 9, 2009 13:35:23 GMT -5
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Post by kangiyuha on Nov 24, 2010 15:31:07 GMT -5
Hogan is "fish", sapa is "black", so the name Hogansapa merely means "Blackfish". Howasapa is "catfish" (phonetic spellings - the "n" in hogaN is sort of silent, marked by a n with a tail.
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Post by lgarcia on Nov 29, 2010 13:55:29 GMT -5
Kangiyuha:
I guess I should have consulted my Dakota dictionary.
Thank you for correcting my mistake.
A catfish is just Howasapa, an abbreviated form of Hogan, owasin, sapa.
I looked on the Ft. Peck Census of 1909 and 1910.
#157 Hoasapa husband age 72
#158 Wakanmani wife age 66.
But I guess this must be Bear Nose.
Louie
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