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Post by grahamew on May 8, 2023 13:58:26 GMT -5
Alas, this photo does not show the Lakota in Canada but Chief Day Star's Cree holding a dance at a meeting with General Middleton (raising his hand at right, just beyond the very tall man in the bowler hat) and members of the North-West Field Force meet on April 10, 1885 in the Touchwood Hills near Salt Plains. 'Middleton’s records provided the answer. In the general’s official 1885 report on military operations in the North-West, his April 10 entry reads in part: “halted 2 miles short of the Salt Plains [what is today the Quill Lakes] … I had a meeting or, as it is called in this part of the country, a ‘Pow-wow,’ with the Indian Chief Day Star [Kīsikāwacāhk] and his people at Indian Farm. They, of course, expressed the greatest loyalty, and received the usual present of tea, tobacco, and flour.” A newspaper search confirmed the meeting; two men with Middleton had written home about the event, and their letters were published in their local newspapers.' In the centre of the image, there's a seated man wearing the headress facing the dancers; this is believed to be Day Star. See Bill Waiser's article, A curious photo from 1885 captures what Indigenous reconciliation could have been www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-a-curious-photo-from-1885-captures-what-indigenous-reconciliation/
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Post by grahamew on Jun 14, 2023 17:00:39 GMT -5
Another couple of errors - I'd seen these two photos, by Truman Ward Ingersoll, labelled as Dakota in Canada: However, Ingersoll was working in Minnesota and these are a part of a series of similar images that he made in 1896. For example: The image below... was taken from Roy Meyer's The Canadian Sioux...... but the figures can be seen in this photo taken during a Sun Dance amomg the Ojibwe at Turtle Mountain in 1908 - although, of course, there could have been Lakota/Dakota present... This is a rather better, clearer version of an image posted upthread of a gathering of 'Sioux' supposedly at Moosejaw. While there may well be some Lakota here, it would appear that there are some Dakota too, judging by the clothing. You'll notice it's not quite the same photo: some of the poses are slightly different. The previous photo was dated 1903 whereas the written inscription on this version places it at the time of Queen Victoria's jubilee in 1897.
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Post by Mitchell BigHunter on Jun 23, 2023 10:03:29 GMT -5
This guy looks very similar to the second man on the left. >Turtle Mountain Tales: The Council stones.
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Post by Dietmar on Jun 23, 2023 10:25:16 GMT -5
Great photo, looks like him, Mitchell!
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Post by grahamew on Jun 23, 2023 13:33:45 GMT -5
Yes. It's the same man: Anashieu, Turtle Mountain band, early 1900s. But on some sites, he's Na-ja-ou (which I can see is close Anashieu), Lakota/Dakota constable and head of the Sundance celebration at Turtle Mountain, North Dakota, 1900 e.g. www.historymuseum.ca/cmc/exhibitions/aborig/rodeo/rodeo85e.htmlBe interesting to know if he was Dakota or Ojibwe or possibly both...
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Post by grahamew on Sept 10, 2023 4:47:36 GMT -5
Paul Kane: Two Sioux, Fort Garry, Winnipeg, 1846 His initial sketches made in the Pembina region, Manitoba, late June, 1846
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Post by Mitchell BigHunter on Dec 6, 2023 10:37:36 GMT -5
Good day, doe's anyone think this could be the same woman? The woman on the right is my Grandmothers Great grandmother. she had the picture on the right in her sewing kit, its printed on a card board paper. but she was known as Okapa < this could be spelt differently. i found on census spelled with Okipa and Okepa. which one, I'm not sure. Her son is Charlie Dowan of Oakriver Sioux Manitoba. and her husband John Okapa. Her Indian name im not sure. it looks like the same face but its a different angle and the pic on the right has her head wrapped. It will be a good pic if i can get another opinion. IT looks like she had the same facial structure. what do you think?
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Post by grahamew on Dec 6, 2023 10:51:17 GMT -5
Possibly, but it looks like the woman on the right is older. Or, of course, the picture was taken a few years later
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Post by Mitchell BigHunter on Dec 6, 2023 13:08:15 GMT -5
Might be some one else then, the Brandon Brock city musee took their photos between 1896-1898.
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Post by clarence on Dec 7, 2023 3:14:45 GMT -5
The woman on the right looks undoubtably older but I think they could be one and the same. They share the same eyecut and zooming in the left picture i think i can see the wart on the right side of the mouth which is much more evident in the right pic. Hope this helps
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Post by Mitchell BigHunter on Dec 7, 2023 10:53:25 GMT -5
Yes that's what i saw, I'm not sure when the Davidson brothers took pictures or if they worked with the Brandon brocks museum? I have a picture of her son too, i share it. has anyone heard of an Charlie Okapa Dowan, or his dad? my mom said john Okapa had another name,'Itewazida'.
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Post by grahamew on Feb 24, 2024 7:17:48 GMT -5
Black, Bull, "Sioux" - taken by William Farmer of Hamilton, Ontario. From the little information I have, Farmer worked out of Hamilton in the 1870s and 1880s, so I'd guess mid-late 1880s. Is this THE Black Bull, the Sicangu headman of a small village of Lakota who did not go back to the USA after Sitting Bull's surrender in 1881?
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Post by richpickering on Feb 28, 2024 23:53:48 GMT -5
Regarding the picture of the gathering at Moose Jaw, Queen's Jubilee, I've also seen that listed as being from Prince Albert, which makes more sense. Take a picture and use it on a postcard, and then sell it, probably at the train station.
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Post by Dietmar on Mar 26, 2024 4:50:58 GMT -5
I know, the pictures are not too clear, and thus it can´t be an ultimate proof... but I tend to believe we see the same man in both photos:
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Post by Dietmar on Mar 26, 2024 8:07:42 GMT -5
...and this an article advertising William F. Farmer´s photographs taken in 1885: The Hamilton Spectator, Sat, Apr 11, 1885
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