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Post by Dietmar on Nov 10, 2008 15:24:55 GMT -5
We had a thread about the works of photographer W. R. Cross at the older boards. Please look here: www.lbha.proboards12.com/index.cgi?board=Indians&action=display&thread=1581Another collage of Cross photos turned up at an auction site recently: Some are easy to identify, others are not: first row: Spotted Tail´s girl, (Custer´s Last Stand), Yankton Twins, Spotted Tail´s daughter second row: ??, 7th Cavalry portraits, ??, Spotted Tail´s family third row: 1875 delegation, Flat Nose John, Colorow (Ute), Standing Bear fourth row: ??, Yellow Hair, ??, Rain-in-the-Face Not all of these are Cross photos, as you obviously can see. The first one in second row (with war club) and the third one in fourth row (with hat) are most interesting to me. Higher resolution versions of these photographs are welcomed... Thanks. Dietmar
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Post by Dietmar on Nov 15, 2008 16:45:44 GMT -5
I wonder if the man with the war club could be White Thunder?
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Post by grahamew on Nov 16, 2008 5:53:09 GMT -5
Could be, although there's a Cross photo of a Yankton Indian with similarly wavy hair. Are the two photos in the centre of the bottom row by Cross? I'm wondering about the trees in the background - I don't associate them with his other photos, but I guess they could be later works.
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Post by Dietmar on Nov 17, 2008 14:24:20 GMT -5
I have at least one other Cross photo with the tree backdrop, so I assume the photos are indeed by him. The originals are stored in the E.Y. Berry Library of the Black Hills State University, South Dakota. iis.bhsu.edu/lis/findingaid/wrcross.cfm
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Post by grahamew on Nov 18, 2008 2:49:30 GMT -5
Do you know if the trees indicate any particular time period? Maybe early or mid 80s as opposed to 70s, or are they interchangeable with the plain backdrop?
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Post by ephriam on Nov 18, 2008 9:45:44 GMT -5
Good morning, everyone. Thank you for posting the new montage. I had not seen that one yet!
Yes, the first portrait in the second row is White Thunder. I have seen several full views of this image (including one in the Ricker Collection, Nebraska State Historcal Society) and they are all titled correctly.
I think that the Brule portrait series (with the firewood in the background) were all taken in 1878. They were initially published by Cross as a series of stereoscopic and cdv views titled "New Spotted Tail Agency." Recall that the Spotted Tail Agency was moved from northwestern Nebraska to the Ponca reservation on the Missouri in late 1877 and became known as the "new" Spotted Tail AGency; it was then removed to its present location in southern South Dakota and renamed the Rosebud Agency a year later.
The Niobrara Pioneer (newspaper) records that Cross left Niobrara for the new Spotted Tail Agency on Feb. 14, 1878 where he remained for several months taking Brule photographs. The paper noted on March 22, 1878 that it had received a photo of Spotted Tail and two of his daughters from Cross. Cross then moved to Niobrara in July 1878.
I think the series was taken in early 1878 (hence everyone is all bundled up with coats and blankets).
ephriam
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Post by Dietmar on Nov 18, 2008 10:08:15 GMT -5
Thanks Ephriam!!!
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Post by grahamew on Nov 18, 2008 12:54:30 GMT -5
Thanks.
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Post by Dietmar on Jul 6, 2010 6:48:02 GMT -5
Currently on Ebay: "STEREOVIEW- W.R. CROSS DRYING MEAT TEEPEES INDIANS" "Though there is a no.9 in period ink on the left side of the mount, the correct title is no 14 Drying Meat. Listing on back for Spotted Tail Agency and Upper Missouri River views. W.R. Cross, Niobrara imprint."
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Post by dickmill on Jul 6, 2010 9:30:25 GMT -5
I have several Cross photos. This one (unlabeled) is similar to the one above -- drying meat. The man has an interesting hat. I wonder if he's really smoking or staging it for the camera?
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Post by Dietmar on Jul 6, 2010 10:44:46 GMT -5
I wonder if I have seen the cap before...
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Post by grahamew on Jul 6, 2010 11:37:19 GMT -5
Cross was working over a fair period of time, wasn't he? I wonder if the one posted by Dick is one of the later photos.
I'd love to see all the photos on that list!
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Post by grahamew on Jul 6, 2010 13:12:20 GMT -5
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Post by Dietmar on Jul 6, 2010 13:28:34 GMT -5
Ah, I knew it! It´s Old Harney with family. See Plate 226 in "The Sioux of the Rosebud" by Hamilton.
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Post by dickmill on Jul 6, 2010 14:12:34 GMT -5
Funny...I recognize the Sioux of the Rosebud photo plate 226 now that you point it out. But...the reason I had it filed under "Cross" is that the photo is mounted on the following: But...if it's in the Hamilton book, it's an Anderson photo!
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