Post by hreinn on Mar 14, 2021 8:47:21 GMT -5
Below are photos of Red Bear from 1868 at Fort Laramie.
Photo 1:
Red Bear is second from right, shaking hands with James Bordeaux trader.
Other Lakotas on the photos are Man Afraid (center) and Packs the Drum (left)
Photo 2:
Red Bear is on the far left.
Packs the Drum (center) and Man Afraid (right).
Perhaps our photo wizards, Grahame, Gregor and Dietmar, can post additional photos of Red Bear.
I wonder to what oyate and tiyoshpaye this Red Bear belonged to ?
Oyate
I assume this Red Bear was an Oglala, just as the other 2 Lakotas on the above photos.
I assume this is not the Itazipco Red Bear who was a wakichunza (wakíčhuŋzA, decider) among Itazipco in 1876.
Tiyoshpaye
The most likely tiyoshpaye are Payabya, Kuhinyan, Hunkpatila (which Man Afraid was associated with) and Kiyuksa (which Packs the Drum was perhaps associated with).
Of these Payabya and Kuhinyan are most likely.
I wonder if this Red Bear (Red Bear 2) was a son of Red Bear (Red Bear 1) who was a son of Sitting Bear 1 and grandson of Split Rock.
According to Kingsley Bray and his Oglala informants, it was Split Rock who threw a dust into the face of his brother, leading to the splitting/dissolving of Izuza tiyospaye or wicoti.
With the result of the coining of the name Oglala or True Oglala to Split Rock's group and the Bear People which he allied with.
Kingsley Bray said that Red Bear 1 moved to Kuhinyan tiyoshpaye.
According to Kingsley Bray, Man Afraid's parents also belonged to Kuhinyan tiyoshpaye.
Where grandfather of Man Afraid married to a sister of Crouches Running, the chief of Kuhinyan tiyoshpaye.
So Red Bear and Man Afraid on the above photos were perhaps relatives.
Through a) Red Bear 1 or his wife and b) either parent of Man Afraid.
Photo 1:
Red Bear is second from right, shaking hands with James Bordeaux trader.
Other Lakotas on the photos are Man Afraid (center) and Packs the Drum (left)
Photo 2:
Red Bear is on the far left.
Packs the Drum (center) and Man Afraid (right).
Perhaps our photo wizards, Grahame, Gregor and Dietmar, can post additional photos of Red Bear.
I wonder to what oyate and tiyoshpaye this Red Bear belonged to ?
Oyate
I assume this Red Bear was an Oglala, just as the other 2 Lakotas on the above photos.
I assume this is not the Itazipco Red Bear who was a wakichunza (wakíčhuŋzA, decider) among Itazipco in 1876.
Tiyoshpaye
The most likely tiyoshpaye are Payabya, Kuhinyan, Hunkpatila (which Man Afraid was associated with) and Kiyuksa (which Packs the Drum was perhaps associated with).
Of these Payabya and Kuhinyan are most likely.
I wonder if this Red Bear (Red Bear 2) was a son of Red Bear (Red Bear 1) who was a son of Sitting Bear 1 and grandson of Split Rock.
According to Kingsley Bray and his Oglala informants, it was Split Rock who threw a dust into the face of his brother, leading to the splitting/dissolving of Izuza tiyospaye or wicoti.
With the result of the coining of the name Oglala or True Oglala to Split Rock's group and the Bear People which he allied with.
Kingsley Bray said that Red Bear 1 moved to Kuhinyan tiyoshpaye.
According to Kingsley Bray, Man Afraid's parents also belonged to Kuhinyan tiyoshpaye.
Where grandfather of Man Afraid married to a sister of Crouches Running, the chief of Kuhinyan tiyoshpaye.
So Red Bear and Man Afraid on the above photos were perhaps relatives.
Through a) Red Bear 1 or his wife and b) either parent of Man Afraid.