Post by Gary on Feb 16, 2021 13:15:06 GMT -5
THE ORDEAL OF SEARGEANT DALEY
Does anyone know anything about the alleged story of Sergeant James Daley, 5th Cavalry?
I recently bought an old article published in the Wide World Magazine in 1907 which purports to tell the story of Daley being captured by the Cheyennes in 1875, but being rescued in the nick of time by other troopers.
I can't find anything about this supposed incident in any of my books, including Price's history of the 5th Cavalry, or online. And there's no incident that corresponds to his alleged capture (he was meant to be in a group of three 5th Cavalry troopers, the other two being killed) in The Record of Engagements.
This photo accompanies the article. I'm tending to the view that he was a fantasist, or that the reporter made up the story.
I posted details on Facebook and nothing came up to support the story. It also seems that he doesn't appear in any pension records.
One comment was particularly interesting as it analyses the claims supposedly made by Daley: "I came across this article before while researching the Cheyenne and it immediately struck me as fabricated. I'll make a couple of points as to why:
1: The capture takes place near the Platte in 1875, but I believe the 5th Cav was in Kansas in 1875 on rather light duty. It had just endured a long, hard campaign in Arizona. The official unit history indicates they were in Kansas and they were about to head north and take part in Crook and Reynold’s Powder River attack on Old Bear’s N. Cheyenne village in March 1876 and the unit history states they took part in no serious action in ’75. The capture and rescue of a Sergeant would have been a big deal had it occurred.
2: The 5th Cavalry was supposedly camped near the Platte and Daley and two other troopers head out alone to track the Cheyennes; highly unlikely. True, anything is possible, but I highly doubt this occurred as stated.
3: After his capture he was taken to the Cheyennes ‘mountain strongholds’ which were stated as known to exist in the Rockies. False. The Cheyennes only went into the Rockies to fight the Utes and hunt, they occasionally retreated into the Bighorns, as they did after LBH, but they did not have mountain strongholds in the Rockies.
4: This story is mainly one of live torture at the hands of Cheyenne warriors. The northern plains warriors did not engage in torture in the way the Apaches did, nor how the eastern nations did in the centuries prior to the 19th. Live torture of enemies was simply not part of the northern buffalo warrior culture.
My conclusion then was that this story is false and to hear that experienced military researchers cannot find anything about Sergeant Daley existing confirms it for me.
Just my 2 cents."
The article has some nice illustrations by a fairly well-known artist called George Soper.
Does anyone know anything about the alleged story of Sergeant James Daley, 5th Cavalry?
I recently bought an old article published in the Wide World Magazine in 1907 which purports to tell the story of Daley being captured by the Cheyennes in 1875, but being rescued in the nick of time by other troopers.
I can't find anything about this supposed incident in any of my books, including Price's history of the 5th Cavalry, or online. And there's no incident that corresponds to his alleged capture (he was meant to be in a group of three 5th Cavalry troopers, the other two being killed) in The Record of Engagements.
This photo accompanies the article. I'm tending to the view that he was a fantasist, or that the reporter made up the story.
I posted details on Facebook and nothing came up to support the story. It also seems that he doesn't appear in any pension records.
One comment was particularly interesting as it analyses the claims supposedly made by Daley: "I came across this article before while researching the Cheyenne and it immediately struck me as fabricated. I'll make a couple of points as to why:
1: The capture takes place near the Platte in 1875, but I believe the 5th Cav was in Kansas in 1875 on rather light duty. It had just endured a long, hard campaign in Arizona. The official unit history indicates they were in Kansas and they were about to head north and take part in Crook and Reynold’s Powder River attack on Old Bear’s N. Cheyenne village in March 1876 and the unit history states they took part in no serious action in ’75. The capture and rescue of a Sergeant would have been a big deal had it occurred.
2: The 5th Cavalry was supposedly camped near the Platte and Daley and two other troopers head out alone to track the Cheyennes; highly unlikely. True, anything is possible, but I highly doubt this occurred as stated.
3: After his capture he was taken to the Cheyennes ‘mountain strongholds’ which were stated as known to exist in the Rockies. False. The Cheyennes only went into the Rockies to fight the Utes and hunt, they occasionally retreated into the Bighorns, as they did after LBH, but they did not have mountain strongholds in the Rockies.
4: This story is mainly one of live torture at the hands of Cheyenne warriors. The northern plains warriors did not engage in torture in the way the Apaches did, nor how the eastern nations did in the centuries prior to the 19th. Live torture of enemies was simply not part of the northern buffalo warrior culture.
My conclusion then was that this story is false and to hear that experienced military researchers cannot find anything about Sergeant Daley existing confirms it for me.
Just my 2 cents."
The article has some nice illustrations by a fairly well-known artist called George Soper.