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Post by Mitchell BigHunter on Aug 28, 2020 17:29:44 GMT -5
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Post by Mitchell BigHunter on Aug 28, 2020 17:31:46 GMT -5
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Post by Mitchell BigHunter on Aug 28, 2020 17:34:58 GMT -5
his was 1885 THE TIME OF THE RIel REBELLION
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Post by Mitchell BigHunter on Sept 12, 2020 10:08:14 GMT -5
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Post by Californian on Nov 9, 2020 15:13:26 GMT -5
hi Mitchell, not sure if I can follow this one correctly, seemingly you go from the premise that this is Jack Red Cloud, the son of the Oglala chief Red Cloud ? That one I am not aware of that he was in Canada. His grave is at Pine Ridge SD at Holy Cross Cemetery - billed as "Jackson Red Cloud" -
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Post by Mitchell BigHunter on Nov 9, 2020 16:59:21 GMT -5
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Post by Californian on Nov 10, 2020 11:56:17 GMT -5
hi Mitchell, I think this is another man named Red Cloud - in fact I have seen others with this name from various bands of the Lakota having over the years extensively perused the Indian Census Rolls for various projects I was pursuing. As far as I know "the" Jack Red Cloud, the son of the Oglala Red Cloud - of whom many photographs exist by notable photographers, including Edward Curtis among others, always lived at Pine Ridge after the Great Sioux War of 1876. Most of his descendants are still there today. But nonetheless, thanks for sharing all the insights. In fact the Canadian Sioux have always been a fascinating subject for me personally.
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Post by gregor on Nov 11, 2020 7:17:59 GMT -5
Hi Californian, I think you are right. There was a Kainai (Blood) chief, who was named "Red Cloud" in Canadian Newspapers (see pix below). Unfortunately I didn't find anything on this "Red Cloud". And I tend to believe that this was a typo or so. There was a famaous Blood Chief called Red Crow. Maybe this was the "Canadian Red Cloud". Maybe some Blood people or specialist for Canadian or Blood History can help.
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Post by Mitchell BigHunter on Nov 11, 2020 10:47:44 GMT -5
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Post by Mitchell BigHunter on Nov 21, 2020 20:04:54 GMT -5
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Post by Mitchell BigHunter on Jan 1, 2021 15:37:38 GMT -5
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Post by Mitchell BigHunter on Jan 1, 2021 23:28:02 GMT -5
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Post by jones on Jan 16, 2021 20:11:06 GMT -5
“I found a picture of Sleepy Eyes on the same site, Its a copy from somewhere. But good Portrait.“ That portrait of Sleepy Eyes is from McKenney and Hall Indian Tribes of North America Department of war, at Washington. By Thomas L. McKenney and James Hall. Philadelphia, E. C. Biddle, 1836-1844. You can find his portrait and short biography on this link digitalcollections.lib.washington.edu/digital/collection/mckenneyhall/id/10/rec/23
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Post by jones on Jan 22, 2021 18:59:11 GMT -5
Incidentally, the 1836 lithographic representation of Sleepy Eye by E.C. Biddle was copied from Charles Bird King's 1824 portrait of him. Most of Charles Bird King's portraits were destroyed in the 1865 Smithsonian fire, so the lithographic reproductions are the only images that remain. There is more information about Sleepy Eye on this website, and I pasted a few excerpts below the link. www.manitouamericans.com/sioux.htmEsh-ta-hum-leah, Sioux Chief Sometimes given as a Warrior and sometimes as a Chief, Sleepy Eyes was a member of the 1824 Sioux delegation to Washington led by Chief Little Crow (Chetan wakan mani), 1765-1770--1833-1834 (Mdewakanton Dakota). Known as the most important Chief at the signing of the Treaty of Traverse Des Sioux in 1851, Chief Sleepy Eyes was one of four Ojibway leaders who visited president Monroe in Washington DC in 1824. After 1857, Chief Sleepy Eyes and his band moved away from his birthplace Swan Lake and set up permanent homes beside Sleepy Eye lake which formerly was called "Pretty water by the big trees". He died in his tepee. He was buried in one of his new buckskin suits, together with his pipe, a mirror, his tobacco pouch and some other small things.
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Post by jones on Jan 27, 2021 23:53:31 GMT -5
“Is there any family living today or records i could take a look at?” This article from the Sleepy Eye Herald Dispatch has a photo of five his descendants. www.sleepyeyenews.com/news/20160629/descendants-of-chief-sleepy-eye-visit-depot-museum Descendants of Chief Sleepy Eye visit Depot Museum Jun 29, 2016 Rolette and her family pointed out that Chief Sleepy Eye signed five treaties and his son, Man Walks with Valuables on his Back signed two. Chief Sleepy Eye was a signer of the Treaty of Traverse des Sioux, signed in 1851, which was an agreement between the Sisseton and Wahpeton bands of Dakota and the U.S. government transferring ownership of much of southern and western Minnesota from the Dakota to the U.S.
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