Replying to the following thread: amertribes.proboards.com/thread/201/rain-face?page=9 I thought this conversation requires a seperate thread as the prevous one was about Rain In The Face. (@ Dietmar: Feel free to move the rest of the Sitting Bull conversation as well to here)
I managed to find the source, but I have misread the year when I scribbled it in my notes a while back. The source is Josephine Waggoner in the Campbell Collection, who claimed that SB received the invitation to visit the Crows for the first time during the "winter of 1884-85." She goes on to state that he set out in June, so the visit would have taken place in that month in 1885 or in July, at least according to Waggoner. She describes the Crow's taunting and the fall out with Bull Head over the gifted Crow horses.
I will try to dive into more primary sources to corroborate Waggoner's 1885 year. We know for certain from several sources that SB visisted in 1886, when he 'riled up' the Crows, but I feel at least there is a possibility that SB visited a year before as well. Perhaps part of celebrating the newly established agency along the LBH River? To be continued.
Well, that did not take long... I tried to find information on where SB was in 1885, and found that he in fact was with Buffalo Bill Cody in the summer of 1885, arriving in NYC in June and traveling with his tour throughout the summer, returning in October. Turns our Waggoner was wrong about the year. It seems that 1886 is indeed the only year SB visited the Crows, I stand corrected.
But no real evidence beyond that - and that the Crow agent wanted him shipped off to Florida. For all I know the supposition that he was disciplined comes solely from the inscription on the photo.
It may be that it's just a slap on the wrist in public - something that happened as part of a general council meeting. Never fails to amaze me, however, bearing in mind Sitting Bull spent eight years of his life under white scrutiny and record keeping that biographies dwell mainly on his earlier life the fairly quickly move on to the Ghost Dance and his demise.
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If I may...Crow resistance to the allotment process started as soon as it did (October 1885). A year later, Crow resistance had solidified significantly although there were signs that more and more Crows would comply. At that time, the process appeared successful around the agency as it completed its move from Stillwater Creek area. Sitting Bull's visit, recorded by the agents and overseers of the allotment program, was all designed to get the Crows to support Lakota resistance to the same programs. I would expect them to say nothing else given their desire for Crow land, agents' (Crow and Lakota) to be rid of Sitting Bull, and the response seen a year after his visit with the Swordbearer affair. If Sitting Bull and his followers/supporters were "disciplined" over the visit, there's a record of that somewhere - newspapers, journals, agency report and correspondence to name some. Be fun to research that! Hope all is well!
I´ve found this article in the Jamestown Weekly Alert, of November 4, 1886. Surely one should not take the text literally, since some of the malicious joy shines through the lines:
Sitting Bull Slugged. (Bismarck Journal.) Sitting Bull has just returned from a visit to the Crow reservation, and his heart was bad. He has no further use for the Crow, either black or red. They treated the celebrated big raiser most outrageously, knocking him down three times, pulling him off of his horse once, daring him out to fight and otherwise insulting his august majesty. It is now in order for the white damphools to visit Yates and soothe the injured feeling of the red reprobate.
Not many newspapers in 1886 were interested in his visit, yet many reports on the 1887 Crow Uprising mentioned his 1886 visit, focussing on his resistance against the Crow allotments.
Not sure if this is a fabrication or that he indeed said this, per the NY Sun, Oct 7, 1887:
Sitting Bull Proud of his Work Billings Montana Oct 6 The dissatisfaction among the Crows culminating in the recent outbreak dates back to the visit of Sitting Bull and his Sioux braves to the Custer battle ground last summer where they held a commemorative war dance and Sitting Bull addressed the Crows something like this: "Look at that monument that marks the work of my people. We are respected and feared by the white man because we killed his great chief and more than three hundred of his warriors on this spot. We receive one and a half pounds of beet per ration but you get only one half pound. Yet we do no work but ride and visit our friends as we please See your little log houses and farms. You are the white mans slave. He is teaching you to labor only that you may forget use of your war paint. The red man was made by the Great Spirit to hunt and to fight. It is the white mans business to work. He is only a soldier when he is paid."
This is too small to read, sadly, but perhaps someone can access it:
For what it's worth, the bumpf on ebay says:
Major James M'Laughlin,Sioux Indian,Sitting Bull addressing the council, 1888
Title: Major James M'Laughlin, Sioux Indian agent Dakota - The noted Sioux chief 'Rain-in-the-Face' ; Dakota - Council of Sioux Indians, recently held at Standing Rock Agency, to consider the land question - Sitting Bull addressing the council / / photo by Barry. Date Created/Published: 1888. Notes: Illus. in: Frank Leslie's illustrated newspaper, v. 65, no. 1686 (1888 Jan. 7), p. 349.
Here´s a close-up of that scene... I´ve tried to identify the people in the photograph. Unfortunately I haven´t find anything about Colonel Barrister, yet, if the name is correct at all (identification by Smithsonian Institute):
It is extraordinary that you can't find anything about an officer of the US Army on the internet . Is it possible that the man's name was not "Barrister", but that he was a "Barrister" (some kind of Lawyer) by Profession? Since it was about land transfers, maybe a notary?