Are you sure 2 and 3 aren't earlier? If that book was published in 1881 with the illustrations, then they must have been taken shortly after surrender - around the time of the Low Dog/Crow King/early Gall series.
The other one - the Barry studio shot where he's dressed in a waistcoast decorated with rings and chains/strings of beads - that looks like the kind of studio shot Barry was producing in the 1885-8.
I'm no longer convinced the man in the Haynes' photo is Louis.
The subject of the other photo I posted does look similar to the blow up from the 1905 picture you posted.
Yes, you are right! This photographs must have been shot in 1881, shortly after the surrender. I had them in my archive as 1888 Barry pix. But like you, I'm convinced the captions are wrong.
Post by swiftbird659 on Jun 24, 2010 15:17:18 GMT -5
I do family reseach alot and also show information on a Spotted Eagle of the Bull-Dung-Band. Cheyenne River Sioux # 841, Moses Spotted Eagle,born 1840-1923 and wife Mollie Walks Rattling, Cheyenne River Sioux # 2719 born 1865, Ration Ticket # 318. Original Allottment maps for Cheyenne River Agency show Spotted Eagle took his original allottment north of the Cheyenne River Agency III, (Home of the Crazy Band) next to Chief Swift Bird or Swift Bird Creek aka Swift Bird Camp in South Dakota at land location 4-13-31.
Post by emilylevine on Dec 15, 2011 20:17:12 GMT -5
I was hoping to use this Huffman image for the Waggoner chapter on Spotted Eagle's son. Do you think it's safe for me to do so? I know someone thought perhaps he was a nephew---any reason why? Thanks em
Just to muddy the waters... I was looking through some photos I'd downloaded and found this one - from Cowan's. It seems to be labelled Spotted Eagle 2nd; I can't make out what else it says. Yellow Bear? Yellow Band? It has the imprint of C.R. Brandis, Photographer, 276 Eccles New Road, Weaste (an address just a half-mile north of the arena site where Buffalo Bill's Wild West performed in Manchester in England). Cowan's identifies it as from the 1887 tour. Can it be the man identified as Young Spotted Eagle/Scorched Lightning? The Huffman photo dates from, what, 1879? Or is it another Spotted Eagle given the suffix '2nd' so as not to be confused with the Sand Arc?
There was another photo in the set that shares the same backdrop: Little Horse. Unfortunately, you can't make out his face:
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I read it as: "Spotted Eagle, 2nd chief of the Yellow Band." Not quite sure of the last word though, hard to see on a computer screen, but it does seem to be "Band" (and makes sense that it is). So not 'Spotted Eagle the second', but Spotted Eagle, who was the second chief in that certain band. Hope this helps, Carlo
This is one of several Huffman views of Spotted Eagle's village, late 1879(?)beside the old freight road near Fort Keogh. I don't have a larger image of this:
...however, here are a couple of closer sections:
Just want to add, rather belatedly(!) that I agree with Gregor's comments back in... 2010; so the Haynes group photo was more likely taken in the summer of 1881 ans was one of a series from which we have five images. I wonder if there are any more or if anyone has (and would care to post) larger versions of the tipi camp and the give-away... I also don't think this is Louis Sitting Bull.
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