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Post by ted on May 28, 2019 14:45:30 GMT -5
Do we know what year Kicking Bear picture below was taken? He looks very young to me. Thanks
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Post by ted on May 28, 2019 14:48:16 GMT -5
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Post by grahamew on May 28, 2019 16:18:53 GMT -5
I think it's a Spencer, so 1891
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Post by ted on May 28, 2019 17:44:18 GMT -5
Thanks Grahamew. I thought it was early 1880s since he looks so young. He does not look 45 years old in this picture, but looks are deceiving. Thank you again.
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Post by Californian on Aug 19, 2022 0:39:03 GMT -5
this one's currently for sale on eBay (August 18, 2022) - don't see it very often. The photograph would have been taken in January 1891 - the photographer John C. H. Grabill later also sold a cropped version as is evident by Grahame's earlier posting. click onto image to enlargeKicking Bear in 'natural costume': Wonder if there's a similar one of Short Bull...
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Post by grahamew on Aug 19, 2022 3:39:43 GMT -5
this one's currently for sale on eBay (August 18, 2022) - don't see it very often. The photograph would have been taken in January 1891 - the photographer John C. H. Grabill later also sold a cropped version as is evident by Grahame's earlier posting. click onto image to enlargeView AttachmentKicking Bear in 'natural costume': Wonder if there's a similar one of Short Bull... Thanks. And there is a Short Bull version, though not just in his breechclout*: * Or if there is, it's yet to come to light...
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Post by Californian on May 24, 2023 0:09:17 GMT -5
Kicking Bear by Dennistoun Photo Company, Glasgow - 1891 click onto image to enlarge
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Post by Californian on May 24, 2023 21:10:01 GMT -5
on Kicking Bear's family ties ... CODY ARCHIVE see: codyarchive.org/life/wfc.person.html#kicking.bearKicking Bear (Mato Wanartaka) 1846-1904
Kicking Bear, Mato Wanartaka (Lakota, Matȟó Wanáȟtake) (1846-1904), born to Black Fox and Iron Cedar Woman of the Oglala Sioux, was brother to Moses Flying Hawk and first cousin to Crazy Horse (their mothers were sisters). With Kicking Bear's marriage to Chief Big Foot's daughter, Woodpecker Woman, Kicking Bear became a band chief of the Minneconjou Sioux and fought for the Lakota Nation during major battles, including the Rosebud and the Battle of Little Bighorn. Kicking Bear accompanied Short Bull to Nevada in 1889 to learn about the Ghost Dance from Wovoka, leader of the Ghost Dance movement. The Ghost Dance was effectively subdued following the Massacre at Wounded Knee Creek in 1890, and leaders of the movement, including Kicking Bear and Short Bull, were imprisoned at Fort Sheridan, Illinois. Kicking Bear and other incarcerated Native men and women were released from prison to join the European tour of Buffalo Bill's Wild West for the season of 1891-92. Kicking Bear and Short Bull, among others, were sent back to Fort Sheridan when they insisted on returning home prematurely, sailing from Glasgow on board the Corean March 4, 1892. Kicking Bear and Short Bull were the last to be released from Fort Sheridan. During the 1891-92 tour, Kicking Bear was widely promoted as the "Fighting Chief of the Ghost Dancers." I see different information, there are statements that Woodpecker Woman was a niece of Spotted Tail (a.k.a. Big Foot) and this one states she was a daughter ... so which is more likely ?
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Post by Californian on May 24, 2023 21:16:59 GMT -5
Kicking Bear's wife - Woodpecker Woman
here is Mike Steven's compilation about her ... no mention of a Miniconjou background or being a niece or daughter of Spotted Elk (a.k.a. Big Foot)
(?) Wood Pecker1,2,3,4 (F) (1852 - ), #17223
The nationality of (?) Wood Pecker was Oglala Lakota Sioux.2,3,4 Also known as (?) Wagnuka.4 (?) Wood Pecker was born in 1852.1 Another source states that her was also listed with a birthdate in 1853.4 And yet another source states that her was also listed with a birthdate in 1855.2,3 She married Chief (?) Kicking Bear before 1892.2,3,4 She was listed as residing with her husband Chief (?) Kicking Bear on the U.S. Indian Census Rolls taken on July 1, 1892 at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, White Clay District, Shannon Co., South Dakota, USA.2 She was listed as residing with her husband Chief (?) Kicking Bear on the U.S. Indian Census Rolls taken on July 1, 1894 at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, White Clay District, Shannon Co., South Dakota, USA.3 She was listed as residing with her husband Chief (?) Kicking Bear on the U.S. Indian Census Rolls taken on June 30, 1895 at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, White Clay District, Shannon Co., South Dakota, USA.4 (?) was listed as the "Head of the Household" on the US Indian Census Rolls at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, Wounded Knee District, Shannon Co., South Dakota, USA, on June 30, 1904.1 Her was allotted land on January 17, 1910 at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, Shannon Co., South Dakota, USA,
NAME MERIDIAN TWP RANGE SECTION ACREAGE TYPE CASETYPE DOCID DATE WOODPECKER 06 042N 044W 005 480 253400 PA 103484 01/17/1910 WOODPECKER 06 042N 044W 005 39.82 253400 PA 103484 10/14/1920 WOODPECKER 06 042N 044W 005 39.86 253400 PA 103484 10/14/1920 WOODPECKER 06 042N 044W 005 39.9 253400 PA 103484 10/14/1920 WOODPECKER 06 042N 044W 005 39.94 253400 PA 103484 10/14/1920.5
Children of (?) Wood Pecker and Chief (?) Kicking Bear Mary Kicking Bear b. 1881(1) (?) His Fight b. 1881(2) (?) Eagle Shawl b. 1884(2) Frank Kicking Bear b. 1886(1) (?) Thunder b. 1889(2) John Kicking Bear b. 1891(1) (?) Takes The Gun b. Sep, 1893(3)
Citations (1) [S159] 1904. (2) [S556] 1892. (3) [S269] 1894. (4) [S561] June 30th 1895. (5) [S80] Bureau of Land Management, Shannon Co. SD -- Federal Land Records.
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Post by grahamew on Jun 11, 2023 9:28:29 GMT -5
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