All is well in the homelands of the Mescalero Apache today. I have been busy with other projects but I would like to drop in and say hello to everyone.
I think with a new server (several years ago); a ton of pictures were lost and the interest on the board was minimized. I was also part of that lost interest in this board because of the pictures and how much it played into telling stories.
I have been working on various family trees here in Mescalero for families that may have lost or forgotten their great-great grandparents. It is something I love doing for the people here. It helps them better understand their past and for them to take pride in their family name.
I am still listening to stories here in Mescalero and compiling them. For what; I don't know. There is so much information here that would make your mind spin. But it is not my place or time to tell these stories publically.
I have completed 5-6 short documentaries (Longest being 1hr16mins) on Apache history, culture and language from our viewpoint. I am very happy with the product but it is not up to me for distribution and they will continue to sit on our shelves until we get the go-ahead to distribute.
Your interest in Chiricahua history is vitally important. I have seen photos here that I have never seen. I have seen identifications that I have never seen. And I appreciate any information you do share.
In closing, if you have any questions, please email me firstname.lastname@example.org and I will respond accordingly.
Hello Penjady, glad you´re back and I´m glad that Things are well in the Mescalero Homelands. I appreciated everything you shared with us, and maybe some of your work, those documentaries may be shared in the future with the public also, that would be great. Hope you´re back often and share things with us. Best wishes from Germany. Chicheman
Good to know there still some field research, let me contribute with you, some time ago I met Sara Mizquez from the Mezcalero Res, maybe 18 years ago, but since then I stayed with a doubt regarding his surname, I have been studying a little bit the phonetic corruption and errors of translation of the Atabascan Spanish-English, As we may know Mezcalero Reservation was formed besides Mezcalero also of Chiricahua mostly Chihene and Lipans, on the historic frontier between Mezcalero and Lipan Apache, there was a branch of Apaches surnamed "Múzquiz" in which "Alsate" stands out, may be "Pedro or Leonardo Múzquiz" . *It is believed that his name Alsate is a deformation of the surname of the captain of the Mexican army Francisco Arzate, assigned to the Presidio del Norte (Ojinaga, Chihuahua). *Alsate is identified as Mescalero apache but general Guajardo that classifies him as Lipán apache *(apacheria is-G.Alonso). Alsate was the son of Miguel Múzquiz with an Apache Mezcalero Mother, Miguel Múzquiz was prisoner of the Apaches from its adolescence and came from a family of much history in Coahuila, since the town of Villa Santa Rosa was renamed Melchor Múzquiz, (Jose Ventura Melchor Ciriaco de Eca and Múzquiz de Arrieta) an ancestor who was a politician and military who fought for the independence of Mexico and who became President of the Mexican republic. Then having an Apache who did not have a 100% pronunciation of Spanish says his Last Name "Múzquiz" and having an Anglo-American writing what’s hear and having a Mexican reading in Spanish what the American wrote we can have the word "Misquez" which has no translation in Atabascan, please correct me if I’m wrong. If you have the opportunity to investigate with relatives of Sara Mizquez and check their origins, we could have a relationship between Alsate and Sara Misquez. I don't even know if Mizques is married surname. Any of you know if there is a board for Alsate on this forum? there are plenty of data for Alsate out there. Also there is a section for Apache/Inde board for Mezcalero we may be posting there unless your investigation is based on Chiricahua on Mezcalero Res or if is considered Mezcalero as a sub division of the Chiricahua. Regards!
Hello, I joined this group last year. As it happens, today, in doing some searches for my ancestor came across your post. My maternal MtDNA is B2a1a and 44+% Native American overall; my Maternal Grandmother was Concepcion Arzate. She was born 1883 in Juarez Mex. Our family surmised that we would have Native ancestry being Mexican on both sides of my family. After receiving the results of my MtDNA; one of my cousins said our "Nana" (Concepcion) told her we were Apache. Her mother's family was Arias and Fuentez. We found her birth and baptismal records in the old church records in Juarez. Since it was the Mezculero that roamed in the area of Juarez, is it possible that she was Mesculero or Lipan Apache?
Essie Arzate (my name here to honor my Grandmother) Email: SgtMajUSMC@netptc.net