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Post by jinlian on Mar 13, 2009 11:42:20 GMT -5
I know I already posted this on the other board, but it's nice to see a close-up of American Horse himself: 1903, last Indian Council, Pine Ridge - American Horse speaking, Red Cloud sitting on armchair (on the right) Close-up of AH:
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Post by jinlian on Apr 12, 2009 8:54:26 GMT -5
David Humphrey Miller painting Ben American Horse, late 1930s-early 1940s -first published on the LBH discussion boards:
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Post by Historian on Apr 21, 2009 13:29:11 GMT -5
Has anyone ever noticed that these three men are wearing the same hide shirt? Little Wound – Oglala – 1877 American Horse - Oglala - 1877 American Horse – Oglala – no date Red Cloud - Oglala - 1880
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Post by grahamew on Apr 22, 2009 1:28:17 GMT -5
Yes - and in the 1877 series, it's also worn by Touch the Cloud and Billy Garnett
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Post by Dietmar on Apr 22, 2009 7:30:39 GMT -5
I´ve seen the shirt in the Buffalo Bill Historical Center in Cody, Wyoming in 1999. I think it is on display permanently in the Plains Indian section of the museum.
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Post by jinlian on May 7, 2009 16:14:23 GMT -5
American Horse by J.H. Sharp
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Post by Historian on May 8, 2009 9:00:45 GMT -5
Touch The Clouds (Mniconjou) wears the same hide shirt. - 1877 Standing fourth from the left, Hollow Horn Bear (Mniconjou) wears the same hide shirt. – 1877 Standing third from left, American Horse wears the same hide shirt. - 1877
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Post by jinlian on May 8, 2009 9:41:08 GMT -5
Close-up of American Horse (1877 delegation picture) Shall we assume American Horse (and Hollow Horn) was as tall as the "giant" Touch The Clouds?
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Post by grahamew on May 8, 2009 11:47:03 GMT -5
Presumably the same bonnet is used more than once. The shirt, of course, is worn during two trips east. Here's Billy Garnett from the 1877 series:
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Post by Historian on May 9, 2009 9:50:27 GMT -5
Presumably the same bonnet is used more than once. The shirt, of course, is worn during two trips east... If you look closely, the feathered headdress on the portrait of Little Wound standing, has small spots of white ermine fur with horsehair tassles on the tips of the feathers with ribbon decorations at the temples, a narrow beaded headband, and the golden eagle tail feathers on the trailer showing the underside of the feathers. I believe that this is the same feathered headdress worn by American Horse in the portrait of him standing. While the portrait of Touch The Clouds standing also has small spots of white ermine fur with horsehair tassles on the tips of the feathers and a narrow beaded headband, the temple decoration is rolled strips of white ermine pelt intead of ribbons, and the trailer feathers showing the top side of the golden eagle tail feathers. So I believe this is a different feathered headdress. The feathered headdress on Billy Garnett does not have the spots of white ermine fur with horsehair tassles on the tips of the feathers, but instead had white plume feathers on the tips of the golden eagle tail feathers with no horse hair tassles. In addition, the beaded headband is wide with a distinctive mountain design and no temple decorations. It does appear to have an un-common triangle hide attachment at each side which tied underneath the chin. So I believe this is a different feathered headdress also. However, the same prayer pipe and pipe bag with the beadwork showing four crosses are used in the Bill Garnett, Little Wound and American Horse photos.
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Post by wolfgang911 on May 12, 2009 17:00:31 GMT -5
I don't know how you guys find time to study all those shirts and pix so I just trust your findings it proves that they did do a lot of borrowing each other clothes though or that tradional dressmakers were getting rare as the tipee of buffalo hide and/or that there was no time between warring and moving nor nice hides left to make new ones. in any way there is some intentional dress up here
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Post by Historian on May 13, 2009 9:30:40 GMT -5
At least they're wearing their own mocassins.
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Post by jeroen on Jul 15, 2009 13:12:25 GMT -5
another nice picture from Thomas American Horse...
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Post by jinlian on Jul 26, 2009 11:32:34 GMT -5
They have been just published on the SIRIS digital archives, so I can post them now: American Horse with wife and daughter (1877, I think - Morrow?) American Horse with son Thomas and grandson Johnson
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Post by jinlian on Jul 26, 2009 11:33:28 GMT -5
Haven't seen this published too so far, so here it is... American Horse shaking hands with R.H. Pratt, Carlisle, 1897
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