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Post by cinemo on Jan 3, 2013 14:23:10 GMT -5
Hi, ladonna again, thanks for these lists and additional explanations. The information in my recently posting with regard to Washechoon I was reading in this link: everlastingexile.weebly.com/dakota-use-of-tobacco.htmlPlease see Part C Number 13. The Aftermath of the war This link contains many books and articles as sources. I must search for the origin of this text for Washechoon. Just I was reading another name for Washechoon. The other name is Toon-kan-shkan-shkan-mane. ( similar to Tunkanskamani Please see this link for trial 318 : athrillingnarrative.com/2012/12/29/1862-trial-318-wa-she-choon/cinemo
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Post by ladonna on Jan 3, 2013 16:47:33 GMT -5
i guess the people were trying to sound out our names, according to our oral storys Washicu was 16 years old and very slow or mild retarded
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Post by Dietmar on Jan 3, 2013 18:44:46 GMT -5
Here are some of the likenesses we have of the 38 Dakotas executed in Mankato: Cut Nose aka Stands in the Mist of the Clouds (Mahpiyaokincjin), leader of the Mdewakanton soldier lodge Red Leaf (Wahpaduta) Windmaker (Ta-ta-ka-gay) Tenazepa aka The Singer (Dowansa) Tenazepa aka The Singer (Dowansa) One Who Forbids His House (Tehedonecha) One Who Forbids His House (Tehedonecha) One Who Forbids His House (Tehedonecha) Tinkling Water (Snamane)
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Post by ladonna on Jan 4, 2013 10:18:11 GMT -5
Oh my thank you for these picture it made tears to see our people before they died
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Post by ladonna on Jan 4, 2013 11:07:22 GMT -5
This is my great great grandfather who was hung with the 38 at Manikota his names is Oyatetawa–Matthew- Wy-a-tah-ta-wa, (His People.) his daughter was called Nape Hote Win she was a child when her mother made it to the Ihunktonwana camps in the James River Valley where at nine years old she was shot in the hip at the Whitestone massacre in 1863 and taken as prisoner of war to Crow Creek her mother died at the massacre, then when released made her way to Sisseton where she is put on the rolls there then came to Standing Rock where she married. My great grandmother Agatha Brave Bull was her daughter, they said when she was old she would wake in the night screaming and shouting for the people to run, I am Ihunktonwana, Sisseton and Pabaska Dakota this my story
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Post by Dietmar on Jan 4, 2013 12:30:57 GMT -5
Thank you for sharing this, Ladonna. I updated the photos above, because Wind Comes Home´s photo was confused with Windmaker´s: Windmaker (Ta-ta-ka-gay) These are additional portraits of The Singer and One Who Forbids His House: Tenazepa aka The Singer (Dowansa) Tenazepa aka The Singer (Dowansa) Unidentified & One Who Forbids His House (Tehedonecha) Unidentified & One Who Forbids His House (Tehedonecha)
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Post by Dietmar on Jan 4, 2013 12:39:24 GMT -5
This is Wind Comes Home: Wind Comes Home (Tatayhdedan)
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Post by cinemo on Jan 5, 2013 11:53:44 GMT -5
Hi ladonna and Dietmar,
thanks for the replies on your part.
On January13, 1863, an account appeared in the New York Times about the hanging on December 26. This account was written by an eyewitness of the executions. The account stated, that just previous to the execution General Sibley reprieved, or rather respited the sentence of Ta-Tay-Me-Ma, an elderly Dakota. In this account is stated, that at the moment of the execution, a rope or loop was broken. A new rope was procured, and the man was hanged a second time. ( Presumably, this man was Hdainyanka ( Rattling Runner )
The account contains a names list of the executed men. Number 31 in this list designated Wa-she-choon, translated as Frenchman. 31. Wa-she-choon, (Frenchman.)
cinemo
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Post by ladonna on Jan 5, 2013 13:48:17 GMT -5
If u know our language Washechoon or Washcu means Takers of Fat which is name we called white people which came from our first view of non native they would take the fat from the animal for their lamps, it was not a bad word just what we saw so even though they say it means French man it is just Taker of Fat
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Post by cinemo on Jan 5, 2013 14:27:58 GMT -5
Ah, thanks, this meaning was not known to me
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Post by Dietmar on Jan 6, 2013 9:12:27 GMT -5
Another Dakota man hanged at Makota was His Thunder aka Chaska. He was a victim of some misunderstanding, haven´t been prosecuted at all. He died just because he had a similar name to some other Dakota. Actually, he saved many lives during the war of 1862. Chaska or His Thunder Little Crow & Chaska Biography of Chaska: www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=47616770
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Post by lgarcia on Jan 7, 2013 10:45:07 GMT -5
I hate to seem like a know-it-all but the photos of Little Crow and Caska - Those are the photos of Wakinyantawa.
Caska or Wakinyantawa was not hung at Mankato. WakinyanTawa (His own Thunder) was Little Crow's Akicita Itancan (Head Soldier) He had a falling out with Little Crow. He later joined Gen. Sibley as a scout and died when he drank some whiskey out of a glass that formerly contained poison. He is buried north of Driscol, North Dakota at the Caska Historic Site along Interstate Highway 94.
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Post by Dietmar on Jan 7, 2013 11:19:31 GMT -5
Thank you Louie,
corrections are always appreciated.
There seem to have been several Chaskas among the condemned Dakota. Robert Hopkins Chaska was another, whose death sentence was overturned later, according to Curtis Dahlin´s book.
Best wishes
Dietmar
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Post by cinemo on Jan 19, 2013 7:13:40 GMT -5
Recently I wrote: The Washechoon who was executed, was a sixteen year old white boy, who had been brought up among the Dakotas ( See Reply #11 and Reply #15 )
It seems, this was first written in a book by Thomas Hughes, History of Blue Earth County, published 1909. I was finding a hint ( footnote ) about that in History Of The Santee Sioux, by R.W. Meyer ( page 130 )
cinemo
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Post by charlie on Jan 19, 2013 10:02:23 GMT -5
I always have seen the chief seated near Little Crow named MEDICINE BOTTLE. He also was named by his people WAKAN O ZHAN (Sacred Light). He belonged to the Kaposia (Light Weights) band of the Mdewakanton subdivision. He died hanged in 11 November 1865 at Pine Knob, near Fort Snelling, together the chief Shakopee (Little Six). Can anyone added other info about the chiefs CUT NOSE, THE SINGER, RED LEAF and ONE WHO FORBIDS HIS HOUSE ?
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