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Post by Blue Duck on Jul 24, 2020 10:03:07 GMT -5
I have the same question. And how we know that Gomez's Apache name was Negoyani? Is this confirmed by historical records?
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Post by Beatrice Gomez Torres on Oct 7, 2020 11:08:41 GMT -5
we are also ancestors to chief gomez we live in texas our grandfather was refugio gomez his father was feliz gomez and then from there we don't know feliz father was after this is chief gomez so we are missing one generation
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Post by Blue Duck on Jan 25, 2021 2:03:39 GMT -5
It is worth mentioning: The guitar player "Tricky" Gomez was a descendant of the famous Chief.
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Post by RJS on Feb 8, 2021 23:21:09 GMT -5
My grandfather's name was Refugio Gomez but not the same Refugio Gomez mentioned in an earlier post. He was born in Texas in 1898. His father was Cleto Gomez who was also born in Texas in the 1870's. My grandfather would tell a story about an Apache ancestor who was hunted by the cavalry. I don't know if it was his grandfather or someone before that. He referred to him as Papa Lolo. I don't know if we have any relation to Chief Gomez but I do know that we have Mescalero Apache blood. I was recently told by my aunt that the family took the Gomez name from a woman that was stolen from a Mexican family and that it was this Lolo that did it.
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Post by Blue Duck on Mar 28, 2021 6:29:20 GMT -5
Many thanks for the story on the abovementioned Papa Lolo.
It is curious that an Apache chief had not only a Spanish name Gomez but also Spanish first name Juan.
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Post by Mangas on Oct 25, 2021 10:39:30 GMT -5
And how we know that Gomez's Apache name was Negoyani? Is this confirmed by historical records?No, it is not. Generally, the Nde have little oral history on any individual before 1870, because they had a cultural taboo about mentioning the name of a deceased person.
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Post by ouroboros on Nov 6, 2021 3:20:35 GMT -5
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Post by Ashley P on Jan 3, 2023 21:30:08 GMT -5
we are also ancestors to chief gomez we live in texas our grandfather was refugio gomez his father was feliz gomez and then from there we don't know feliz father was after this is chief gomez so we are missing one generation Hello! Refugio sounds familiar. My grandpa is Richard (Ricardo) Gomez. He’s one of many siblings.
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Post by tosque on Jul 2, 2023 18:47:43 GMT -5
The Agua Nuevas, was a mixed Apache-Band of Chihenne, Lipan and Mescalero. Marco, Carnoviste and Aslate follows Gomez as Chiefs of the Agua Nuevas. The Agua Nuevas under the Chiefs Carnoviste and Alslate was allied wih the Chihenne-Apache-Chief Victorio. In the self time these Apaches makes peace with the Comanches.
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Post by Nomad Mesc/Lipan Duke Sancho on Oct 9, 2023 17:03:43 GMT -5
It is strongly suspected that Juan Manuel Gomez my 2nd great Grandfather born 1860 in Reynoso Tamaulapias, Mexico is this family you speak of. His father, my 3rd great Grandfather Antonio Gomez born 1840 in Coahuila Mexico was also a Native. They were of the Indigenous people from the Americas Mexico.Through over 25 years of research and DNA I found my ancestor's were of the Ethnohistory of Coahuila. Ethnohistoric Notes on Indian Groups Associated with Three Spanish Missions at Guerrero, Coahuila, Mexico Volume 1979 by T.N. Campbell in the INDEX OF TEXAS ARCHEOLOGY have them listed in the "Baptizmos de Yndios" translated Baptisms of Indians. Other baptism records of the children have the "Yndios" listed after My 3rd great grandparents names on these documents. Manuel Gomez whom I suspect is "Juan" is listed as "Native American" on the 1910 Council Bluffs Ward 3 Pottawattamie, Iowa, USA, Census 49 working on the Rail Road. My Gomez ancestors were from the same area as my Sanches family Coahuila Mexico. On my Maternal Side I am Kin to CHEVATO (Chebatah) The Apache Warrior Who kidnapped Herman Lehman. He was born 1856 at the "Hacienda de Patiño" Zaragoza, Coahuila Mexico. This was my 3rd great Grandmother Lipan Apache Maria Antonia Patiño's home and birth place in 1826. her family had had been in the Coahuila area since 1720. You can find "Patiño" on Coahuila maps around 1850 near the "Lomerios De Peyotes". My grandfather is listed as Pedro Aguilar born Pedro Aguilar Sanches in Arteaga Coahuila Mexico, on the Santo Domingo Pueblo Indian Census Roll, 1933 New Mexico. What Do I know!? I was denied membership into the Mescalero Tribe. The Spanish erased our Indigenous culture and so I write these words with the hope that one day we can be home with our people.
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Post by Nomad Mesc/Lipan Duke Sancho on Oct 16, 2023 14:53:45 GMT -5
Does anyone know how to directly speak with Gregory G Gomez? I've looked for his contact on the page and there is not contact from what i can see.
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Post by Eileen Gomez on Dec 29, 2023 18:20:17 GMT -5
we are also ancestors to chief gomez we live in texas our grandfather was refugio gomez his father was feliz gomez and then from there we don't know feliz father was after this is chief gomez so we are missing one generation My grandfather and father are Refugio Gomez II and Refugio Gomez III
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