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Post by ouroboros on Oct 19, 2015 5:21:47 GMT -5
Greetings! I read in some books that the Comanches called the Lipan and Mescalero Apaches "eskiwita", what means "gray excrement". Is there any explanation why the Apaches were so called by the Nemene?
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Post by tkavanagh on Oct 20, 2015 18:50:27 GMT -5
Allegedly (Numunuu folk etymology) it was because eating mescal caused the particular intestinal reaction.
tk
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Post by ouroboros on Oct 23, 2015 23:14:31 GMT -5
Thanks for the answer tkavanagh
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Post by cinemo on Oct 25, 2015 5:49:50 GMT -5
The name comes most probably due to the habit of Lipan, a gray paste to lubricate the skin and in the hair.
For a more detailed information, please see the book : The Light Gray People: An Ethno-History of the Lipan Apaches of Texas and Northern Mexico , by Nancy McGown Minor ( page 7 and 41 )
cinemo
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Post by ouroboros on Jul 7, 2016 13:24:03 GMT -5
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Post by cinemo on Jul 8, 2016 14:37:49 GMT -5
Hi „ouroboros“
so far as I know, the Comanche term or name for the Apaches was „Tashin“ or „Tá-ashi“. Probably, the latter name means „turned up“ and having reference to the Apache moccasins.
Concerning the name „Yoakum“ I am not sure, but I think, the name refers to Henderson Yoakum. This man rode with Captain John Moore's ranger force in 1839 or 1840 . That force killed many Comanches. Within the troop were some Lipan Apaches allies , that killed some Comanche prisoners.
Maybe, for any reason, the Comanches called the Lipans afterwards „Yoakum“.
Again, I am not sure with my assumptions.
cinemo
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Post by ouroboros on Jul 11, 2016 11:00:16 GMT -5
Many thanks cinemo for the answer.
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