Womans Back

[kakarns]

1887 Census pg. 130
Womans Back - Father - M - 63
White Hill - Wife - F - 60 (Elizabeth per; Mike Stevens website)
Her good center - Daughter - F - 24
Uses her spotted - Daughter - F - 21

1888 Census pg. 208 ? (hard to read pg.#)
Womans Back - Father - M - 63
White Hill - Wife - F - 60
Her Good Center - Daughter - F - 25
Uses Her - Daughter - F - 22
Likes Men (or, Move sp.?) - Gr Daughter - F - 10
Pretty - Gr Daughter - F - 1

1890 Census - Maka ha z - no.32
Womans Back - m - fat - 65
White Hill - f - wife - 62
Uses Her Spotted - f - da - 24
Head - m - son - 16

1892 Census - Sioux & Cheyenne - July (can't read date), 1892 (at Pine Ridge) pg. 231
[NOTE]: White Hill is no longer listed with Womans Back instead, his wife's name is Lizzie. by; kakarns
Womans Back - M - H. - 67
Lizzie - F - W. - 65

1893 Census - Sioux
Womans Back - M - H. - 67
Lizzie - F - W. - 65

1893 Census pg. 217
[NOTE]: Note the additions of two adult children to the family. by; kakarns
Womans Back - M - Hus - 68
Lizzie - F - Wife - 66
Jessie Womans Back - F - Da. - 23
Patrick Bitters - M - Son - 21

1894 Census pg. 247
Womans Back - M - Fath - 69
Lizzie Womans Back - F - Wife - 67
Jessie Womans Back - F - Da. - 24
Patrick Bitters - M - son - 22

1896 Census pg. 138 ? (pg # is hard to read)
Womans Back - M - Father - 71
Lizzie Womans Back - F - Wife - 69
Jessie Bitters - F - Dau - 26
Patrick Bitters - M - Son - 24

1897 Census pg. 178
Womans Back - M - Head - 72
Lizzie Womans Back - F - Wife - 70
Jennie Bitters - F - Dau. - 27

[NOTE]: Listed directly below Womans Back, in the 1897 Census pg. 178, is Patrick Bitters with his wife. by; kakarns

Patrick Bitters - M - Head - 25
Red Cedar - F - Wife - 19

1898 Census pg. 128
Womans Back - M - Head - 73
Lizzie W. Back - F - Wife - 71
Jessie Bitters - F - Dau. - 28

[NOTE]: Listed directly below Womans Back, in the 1898 Census pg. 128, is Patrick Bitters with his wife. by; kakarns

Patrick Bitters - M - Head - 26
Red Cedar - F - Wife - 20






[NOTE]: Below is some of the info. Mike Stevens has on his website concerning some of the people listed above. by; kakarns

from: "Tiyospaye" site by; Mike Stevens

Woman Back (M)
(1825 - ), #39037
The nationality of Woman Back was Makahu Oglala Lakota Sioux. Also known as Nite Winyan. Also known as Winyan Nite. Woman Back was born in 1825. He married Elizabeth White Hill circa 1865 was listed as the "Head of the Household" on the US Indian Census Rolls at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, Wounded Knee District, Shannon Co., South Dakota, USA, on July 1, 1890 was listed as the "Head of the Household" on the US Indian Census Rolls at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, Shannon Co., South Dakota, USA, on July 1, 1892.

Children of Woman Back and Elizabeth White Hill
Uses Her Spotted b. 1866
Head b. 1874

Elizabeth White Hill (F)
(1828 - ), #39038
The nationality of Elizabeth White Hill was Makahu Oglala Lakota Sioux. Also known as He Ska. Elizabeth White Hill was born in 1828. She married Woman Back circa 1865.She was listed as residing with her husband Woman Back on the U.S. Indian Census Rolls taken on July 1, 1890 at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, Wounded Knee District, Shannon Co., South Dakota, USA. She was listed as residing with her husband Woman Back on the U.S. Indian Census Rolls taken on July 1, 1892 at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, Shannon Co., South Dakota, USA.

Children of Elizabeth White Hill and Woman Back
Uses Her Spotted b. 1866
Head b. 1874

Lizzie (F)
(1826 - ), #18685
The nationality of Lizzie was Oglala Lakota Sioux. Her married name was Lizzie Woman's Back. Also known as Winyan Nite. Lizzie was born in 1826. Another source states that her was also listed with a birthdate in 1827. She married Woman's Back circa 1868. She was listed as residing with her husband Woman's Back on the U.S. Indian Census Rolls taken on June 30, 1894 at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, Shannon Co., South Dakota, USA. She was listed as residing with her husband Woman's Back on the U.S. Indian Census Rolls taken on June 30, 1895 at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, Shannon Co., South Dakota, USA. She was listed as residing with her husband Woman's Back on the U.S. Indian Census Rolls taken in 1896 at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, South Dakota, USA. An unknown person was listed as the "Head of the Household" on the US Indian Census Rolls at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, Pass Creek District, Shannon Co., South Dakota, USA, on June 30, 1904.

Children of Lizzie and Woman's Back
Jessie Bitters b. 1869
Patrick Bitters b. 1871

Jessie Bitters (F)
(1869 - ), #18686
Also known as Jessie Woman's Back. The nationality of Jessie Bitters was Oglala Lakota Sioux. Jessie Bitters was born in 1869. She was the daughter of Woman's Back and Lizzie. Another source states that her was also listed with a birthdate in 1870. She was listed as "daughter" and residing in the home of (?) Woman's Back on the U.S. Indian Census Rolls taken on June 30, 1894 at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, Shannon Co., South Dakota, USA. She was listed as "daughter" and residing in the home of Woman's Back on the U.S. Indian Census Rolls taken on June 30, 1895 at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, Shannon Co., South Dakota, USA. She was listed as "daughter" and residing in the home of Woman's Back on the U.S. Indian Census Rolls taken in 1896 at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, South Dakota, USA.

Patrick Bitters (M)
(1871 - ), #18687
Also known as Patrick Woman's Back. The nationality of Patrick Bitters was Oglala Lakota Sioux. Patrick Bitters was born in 1871. He was the son of Woman's Back and Lizzie. Another source states that his was also listed with a birthdate in 1872. He was listed as "son" and residing in the home of Woman's Back on the U.S. Indian Census Rolls taken on June 30, 1894 at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, Shannon Co., South Dakota, USA. He was listed as "son" and residing in the home of Woman's Back on the U.S. Indian Census Rolls taken on June 30, 1895 at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, Shannon Co., South Dakota, USA.3 He was listed as "son" and residing in the home of Woman's Back on the U.S. Indian Census Rolls taken in 1896 at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, South Dakota, USA. Patrick Bitters married Mary (?) circa 1901. Patrick was listed as the "Head of the Household" on the US Indian Census Rolls at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, Pass Creek District, Shannon Co., South Dakota, USA, on June 30, 1904.

[NOTE]: Another Woman Back listed on M.S. site who may be related ?
by; kakarns

Woman Back (M)
(1887 - ), #35323
Also known as Wiyan Nite. Woman Back was born in 1887. He was listed as "grandson" and residing in the home of Daylight Man on the U.S. Indian Census Rolls taken on July 1, 1890 at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, Porcupine District, Shannon Co., South Dakota, USA.


Closing comments:
I have noticed that all of the Census listed above use the spelling for Womans Back just as, I posted it here in this thread. There is no ( ' ) between the "n" and the "s" in his first name. Which, is a mistake that I did while, trying to find information on him.

I am not for sure but, I think Jessie and Patrick Bitters were step-children (in the English sense)to Womans Back. They may have been Lizzie's children from a previous marriage (?) or, perhaps Womans Back and Lizzie adopted them.

REFER:
LaDeane Miller - Census files
Mike Stevens
self


Thanks,
kakarns

[kakarns]

You can find more information about Patrick Bitters the son of, Womans Back and Lizzie Womans Back in the following thread:

amertribes.proboards.com/thread/1645/spotted-tail-widow-2?page=1&scrollTo=13642

Thanks,
kakarns

[kakarns]

Patrick Bitters was also married to a woman named; Emma Black Bear. Several Census show Patrick and his wife Emma Black Bear listed next to a man (and his family) named; Black Bear #2 and his wife Emma Black Bear.

Just for an example;
1924 Census
Patrick Bitters - Head - b.1872 - M
Emma Bitters - Wife - b.1888 - F

[NOTE]: Listed directly below Patrick Bitters is:

Black Bear #2 - Head - b.1860 - M
Emma Black Bear - Wife - b.1865 - F
Rosa Black Bear - Dau - b.190? (can't read yr.) - F

1934 Pine Ridge Census Roll - April 1, 1934 pg. 54
[NOTE]: Allot of this pg. is hard to read therefore, I have listed minimal information. Again, listed directly below Patrick Bitters and his wife Emma is Black Bear and his wife.

Bitters, Patrick - Head
Bitters, Emma (aka), Black Bear, Emma

Black Bear #2 - Head - M
Emma Black Bear - Wife - F


Closing Comments:
My first thought was the possibility of Patrick's wife Emma maybe being a daughter of Black Bear #2 and his wife Emma.
However, I can't find any listing of Emma Black Bear b. 1865 with Black Bear #2 in the Census I do have.

I think it is very possible that this Black Bear #2 was the son of; Shot In The Eye/White Mountain since, he gives a year of birth of 1860. Shot In The Eye, is also listed with this Black Bear and family in the 1894 Census as; "Fath".

Thanks,
kakarns

[kakarns]

Dear Members and Readers,

I have removed this statement (below) from my post above, (dated Feb. 1, 2015) due to an error. I had this confused with some info. which, I had read while, researching Peter Livermore/Livermont and the Crow Feather family. I apologize for the error.

"What ever the case may be, I did read that Chief Red Cloud and Chief Shot In The Eye gave testimony on Patrick Bitters behalf so, he could receive Tribal annuities."

Read more: amertribes.proboards.com/thread/2217/womans-back#ixzz3Rp8YAcm7


Thanks,
kakarns