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Post by kingsleybray on Aug 21, 2014 8:48:04 GMT -5
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Post by Dietmar on Aug 21, 2014 11:41:32 GMT -5
Just thinking... what´s the exact meaning of "Iron Eyes" in Lakota language? Does that mean a man with goggles? The man with goggles in the photo looks older than Spotted Elk though.
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Post by Dietmar on Aug 21, 2014 12:01:38 GMT -5
Here are both pictures of the man with the knifeclub, unfortunately he stayed back in the second one.
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Post by Dietmar on Aug 21, 2014 12:23:37 GMT -5
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Post by grahamew on Aug 21, 2014 13:13:46 GMT -5
Here's Dewey Beard some years after Wounded Knee, He was about 31/32 when the above photo was taken And here's an even later photo, circa 1927. Is he the man wearing the roach below?
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Post by grahamew on Aug 21, 2014 13:28:06 GMT -5
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Post by grahamew on Aug 21, 2014 15:02:13 GMT -5
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Post by Dietmar on Sept 4, 2014 7:27:03 GMT -5
So here is Spotted Elk´s (Big Foot) camp from a distance, taken by John C. H. Grabill in 1890: "3559 An Indian Village. Big Foot and Spotted Elk´s village on the Cheyenne." The caption should read "Big Foot aka Spotted Elk´s village on the Cheyenne", of course. Or is Grabill referring to the Chief´s son, who was also known as Spotted Elk? You can see not only tipis but also log buildings.
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Post by Dietmar on Sept 4, 2014 7:59:15 GMT -5
Jensen´s "Eyewitness at Wounded Knee" contains a third photograph of "Big Foot´s band": You can´t read the caption on the photo, but I assume it must be the picture Grabill lists as: "3557 Indian Dance, Sioux Indians dancing" It´s easy to spot Spotted Elk in front of the wagon second from right. The man with the white hat is standing to his left.
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Post by Dietmar on Sept 4, 2014 8:24:20 GMT -5
There were several members of the Indian police at the gathering at the Cheyenne River in 1890. They all wear badges on their vests. Among them is one sergeant. Is it possible to identify at least this man? The Indian police force at Cheyenne River was relatively small, I think. Does anyone have a list of Indian police members in 1890? Some sources say Hump was the "Chief of police" at CR. These are edits from the Grabill´s group photos: Sergeant?
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Post by kingsleybray on Sept 4, 2014 8:31:36 GMT -5
fantastic new pics and details, many thanks Dietmar. I hope to swing down the Cheyenne river forks district in November. Will try to match up the landscape with the picture of Spotted Elk's village. Very sad comparing the peaceful view with what happened to the people living there four months later.
No, I can't help with the id of the police at Cheyenne River. I have a list from 1880, but that's a decade too early.The sergeants in 1880 were Crane, Whirling Hand, White Horse, Warrior.
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Post by Dietmar on Sept 4, 2014 9:33:36 GMT -5
From: “Report of Special Agent GILBERT GAUL on the Indians of the Cheyenne River reservation, Cheyenne River agency, South Dakota, July and August, 1890.”:
„There are 27 Indian policemen, commanded by Chief Hump. The other officers are 1 captain, 1 lieutenant, and the usual noncommissioned officers.“
I haven´t been in the army... does anyone recognize the rank of the one I called sergeant by the stripes on his arm?
In the following months Hump is said to have "thrown off" his police uniform and became a Ghost Dancer. Straight Head became the new Captain of Police at Cheyenne River.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 7:04:25 GMT -5
The person on the left in the bottow row is perhaps the same person as the one on the left in Pic 1. What do you say ? This photo is probably taken in Washington. Does anyone know the name of this person ? Spotted Elk/Big Foot is on the photo above, in the center of the top row (second from left). The one on the left in top row (left of Spotted Elk/Big Foot), is perhaps the same person as the one with a white hat in Pic 10 (right of Spotted Elk/Big Foot) ? What do you say ? What is his name ?
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