Actually, I don't think she looks like either one of the ladies in the Huffman image... but, then again, people can look very different in different photographs... I am pretty sure the one I posted is a Barry photograph, and my guess is the mid 1880's...
Hi, I'm looking for information regarding my great-great-grandfather who was a surveyor for the Canadian government circa 1860-65. His name was Charles Robeson and was married to a Native American woman called Ne-Oske-Leta supposedly an Oglala or Hunkpapa Sioux. Any information regarding either would me much appreciated.
The soldiers didn't carry sabres at LBH because Custer said they were unlikely to get close enough to the Indians to use them (wrong again), and they were heavy. However, I believe a few officers kept theirs so Rain-in-the-Face was more than likely correct.
Ladonna when you did this research on Rain in the Face how did you go about finding it...were you able to look through the Tribes files for them? I was curious i tried on my own to find my relatives and was unsucessful, i received a letter with some "official"explinations. Bologna. Just curious.
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I was just looking through this discussion about Rain-in-the-Face. A long time ago I had read an account that Rain in the Face was actually the person who killed George Armstrong Custer. However, he denied doing this towards the end of his life. He was a very brave fighter - he just didn't kill Custer. Looking around the internet, there is now a site that gives extensive research to all the accounts of the LBH battle. And it appears that the person who really did kill Custer was White Cow Bull.
On a separate note ... I came across a quote from Reno who fought with Custer. Reno is supposed to have said that the Sioux and Cheyenne horsemen were the "best light cavalry in the world". That is high praise for those warriors - since it came from their enemy at the time. Reno had studied cavalry tactics extensively, and was in a good position to make a judgment. It is fair to say, though, that many of Custer's men also fought hard to their deaths. Testimonies by Lakota who fought in LBH state that a lot of those men fought bravely to the end.
Interesting. At that time (early 1870's) Rain in the Face had big disagreements with Lakota tribal members who lived peacefully on the reservation. He was betrayed by some reservation Indians, caught by Custer, sent to Fort Abraham Lincoln, and scheduled to be executed. However, he escaped because an old white soldier let him go. So that was the source of friction between Rain in the Face and people at the agency.
I am a student at the University of Northern British Columbia. I am doing some research into events locally between the First Nations people and early European settlers.
In the course of my research, I can across the following reference regarding Chief Rain-in-the-Face:
“Some years later, charged with the murder of the two men, Rain-in-the-Face was arraigned in a federal court. His defense attorney effectively argued that it was in an act of war that the men died, and therefore not murder. The judge agreed, and closed the case.”
I have found cases where the same defence was unsuccessfully used, but no others where it was successful. Might anyone here be able to refer me to a source wher I might obtain a transcript of this trial or at the least, a copy of the judgement?
Willow the other famous case which was successful also involved the Lakota. In the aftermath of the Ghost Dance troubles young Plenty Horses was put on trial for the murder of Lt Casey but was aquitted as it was deemed an act of war. There is plenty written about this see the latest book "In the Shadow of Wounded Knee" by Roger L Di Silvestro Hope this is helpful.
Would you be able to shed some light on the family connection between Rain In The Face and a Hunkpapa named Spotted Elk? In Curtis' short bio of this Spotted Elk, b. 1842, he mentions that he is the half-brother of Rain In The Face and that he is a Hunkpapa chief.
This ofcourse could mean either an actual half-brother in the western sense, or it could mean a cousin, or a hunka brother, or even a kola (friend). He goes on to state that he was the son of a Hunkpapa chief called Burned Shaver, who is also quite a mistery to me.
(Incidently, under his picture by Curtis, he is mistakenly listed as Brule.)