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Post by jeroen on Dec 6, 2010 10:03:38 GMT -5
Actually, I don't think she looks like either one of the ladies in the Huffman image... but, then again, people can look very different in different photographs... I am pretty sure the one I posted is a Barry photograph, and my guess is the mid 1880's...
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Post by grahamew on Dec 6, 2010 13:01:17 GMT -5
I think it's a Barry too.
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Post by grahamew on Dec 20, 2010 15:27:24 GMT -5
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Post by leelee2010 on Dec 28, 2010 11:27:32 GMT -5
I think its great that everyone is sharing these photographs, it's wonderful!!!
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Post by sjryan1959 on Jul 23, 2011 9:27:40 GMT -5
Hi, I'm looking for information regarding my great-great-grandfather who was a surveyor for the Canadian government circa 1860-65.
His name was Charles Robeson and was married to a Native American woman called Ne-Oske-Leta supposedly an Oglala or Hunkpapa Sioux. Any information regarding either would me much appreciated.
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Post by yonze43 on Aug 26, 2011 22:51:59 GMT -5
The soldiers didn't carry sabres at LBH because Custer said they were unlikely to get close enough to the Indians to use them (wrong again), and they were heavy. However, I believe a few officers kept theirs so Rain-in-the-Face was more than likely correct.
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Post by leelee2010 on Dec 1, 2011 13:55:19 GMT -5
Ladonna when you did this research on Rain in the Face how did you go about finding it...were you able to look through the Tribes files for them? I was curious i tried on my own to find my relatives and was unsucessful, i received a letter with some "official"explinations. Bologna. Just curious.
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Post by ladonna on Dec 1, 2011 15:26:56 GMT -5
i have the tribal records that i access too that others dont have access.
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Post by ladonna on Dec 1, 2011 16:03:28 GMT -5
I hope you get the family history and hello my relative
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Post by dT on Feb 27, 2012 13:26:17 GMT -5
I was just looking through this discussion about Rain-in-the-Face.
A long time ago I had read an account that Rain in the Face was actually the person who killed George Armstrong Custer. However, he denied doing this towards the end of his life. He was a very brave fighter - he just didn't kill Custer. Looking around the internet, there is now a site that gives extensive research to all the accounts of the LBH battle. And it appears that the person who really did kill Custer was White Cow Bull.
On a separate note ... I came across a quote from Reno who fought with Custer. Reno is supposed to have said that the Sioux and Cheyenne horsemen were the "best light cavalry in the world". That is high praise for those warriors - since it came from their enemy at the time. Reno had studied cavalry tactics extensively, and was in a good position to make a judgment. It is fair to say, though, that many of Custer's men also fought hard to their deaths. Testimonies by Lakota who fought in LBH state that a lot of those men fought bravely to the end.
dT
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Post by ahmann on Feb 27, 2012 16:01:35 GMT -5
Rain in the Face shot my relative and hit him in the leg in 1873 while at the Grand River Agency.
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Post by dT on Feb 27, 2012 19:23:59 GMT -5
Interesting.
At that time (early 1870's) Rain in the Face had big disagreements with Lakota tribal members who lived peacefully on the reservation. He was betrayed by some reservation Indians, caught by Custer, sent to Fort Abraham Lincoln, and scheduled to be executed. However, he escaped because an old white soldier let him go. So that was the source of friction between Rain in the Face and people at the agency.
dT
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Post by willow on Mar 21, 2012 9:41:57 GMT -5
I am a student at the University of Northern British Columbia. I am doing some research into events locally between the First Nations people and early European settlers.
In the course of my research, I can across the following reference regarding Chief Rain-in-the-Face:
“Some years later, charged with the murder of the two men, Rain-in-the-Face was arraigned in a federal court. His defense attorney effectively argued that it was in an act of war that the men died, and therefore not murder. The judge agreed, and closed the case.”
I have found cases where the same defence was unsuccessfully used, but no others where it was successful. Might anyone here be able to refer me to a source wher I might obtain a transcript of this trial or at the least, a copy of the judgement?
Many thanks for your assistance.
Regards,
Willow Arune
arune@unbc.ca
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Post by philrob on Mar 24, 2012 5:19:23 GMT -5
Willow
the other famous case which was successful also involved the Lakota. In the aftermath of the Ghost Dance troubles young Plenty Horses was put on trial for the murder of Lt Casey but was aquitted as it was deemed an act of war. There is plenty written about this see the latest book "In the Shadow of Wounded Knee" by Roger L Di Silvestro
Hope this is helpful.
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Post by nicolas (carlo) on Sept 27, 2012 5:27:15 GMT -5
Ladonna,
Would you be able to shed some light on the family connection between Rain In The Face and a Hunkpapa named Spotted Elk? In Curtis' short bio of this Spotted Elk, b. 1842, he mentions that he is the half-brother of Rain In The Face and that he is a Hunkpapa chief.
This ofcourse could mean either an actual half-brother in the western sense, or it could mean a cousin, or a hunka brother, or even a kola (friend). He goes on to state that he was the son of a Hunkpapa chief called Burned Shaver, who is also quite a mistery to me.
(Incidently, under his picture by Curtis, he is mistakenly listed as Brule.)
Thanks!
Carlo
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