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Post by grahamew on Apr 5, 2020 14:20:51 GMT -5
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Post by Dietmar on Apr 5, 2020 15:22:42 GMT -5
This is indeed an intriguing picture. I got this list of Sioux attending the World´s Fair in 1893:
Sioux - Many arrived June 30 in Roddy´s group of sixty-one:
Black Bull – Sitting Bull´s cabin Black Tomahawk – From Northern Cheyenne on Missouri River [Cheyenne River?] Chasing Fly - Sitting Bull´s cabin Cotton Wood - Sitting Bull´s cabin Curly – Note: There was also a Curley identified as Crow Charles Eastman – Wrote paper on “Sioux Mythology” for international Folk-lore Congress, July 18 Flat Iron – Attended opening ceremonies Grey Eagle - Sitting Bull´s cabin Mary Hairy-Chin – Midway Village Kills Him Twice Lone Dog – Midway village Prairie Chicken - Sitting Bull´s cabin Pretty Face (Sitting Bull´s niece) - Sitting Bull´s cabin, interpreter and artisan Pretty Face´s husband - Sitting Bull´s cabin. Note: May be the one of the men listed in this section. Rain-in-the-Face – On display in Sitting Bull´s cabin “Red Cloud” – Young Native man claiming to be “the famous Sioux of Western notoriety” in Midway village War Bonnet - Sitting Bull´s cabin ["Unfair Labor?: American Indians and the 1893 World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago" by David R. M. Beck (Univ. of Nebraska Press), page 210/211
According to this list, Mary Hairy Chin was Sitting Bull´s niece and the interpreter. Note that Curly was Curly Head, an Arikara.
I think that War Bonnet is the man standing 6th from left (wearing a long breast-plate). Like Rain-in-the-Face, Pretty Face, Curly Head and others, he was photographed by George F. Spencer that year (1893) in Chicago.
As Jack Red Cloud was also photographed by Spencer, perhaps he could be the one of "Western notoriety", but this is just a tentative theory. He was indeed at the fair as part of the 1893 Buffalo Bill Show performer contingent, but this "Red Cloud" at 'Midway village' could easily be another person.
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Post by grahamew on Apr 5, 2020 16:46:32 GMT -5
And here we have Mr T. R. Roddy (aka White Buffalo - a name given by the Winnebago), the midwest dealer/collector who organised the Indian village (a separate entity to the Wild West Show which performed at the Fair. Same man but younger? This was taken in Wisconsin where Roddy was collecting native material objects Either way, I don't see him in the photo, unless he's the white man nearest Rain in the Face. The Coffeyville Daily Journal Coffeyville, Kansas 04 May 1911, Thu • Page 8
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Post by Dietmar on Apr 6, 2020 6:16:48 GMT -5
Rain-in-the-Face In Chicago. Whatever may be said about the spectacular careers of the rest of the Sioux since the wars of 1876 and 1891, says a Chicago special to the Pioneer Press, Rain-in-the-Face cannot be charged with having sought notoriety. Until the Wisconsin Central train hauled him out of St. Paul on Friday night he had never been east of the Mississippi river. The biggest town he had been up to that day was Mandan, in North Da- kota. Rain-in-the-Face left Mandan, N. D., on Thursday. He was accompanied by a son of Major McLaughlin, the famous agent at Standing Rock. Before the men left the agency the Sioux gave Rain-in-the-Face a big sent-off. A steer was slaughtered in sight of the agency buildings, and gathered about the roast- ing steaks and sputtering fat the war- riors made merry until it was time for the buckboard to start for the train. Rain-in-the-Face is wonderfully im- pressed with what he has seen. St. Paul upset the old man's nerve, but the roar of Chicago's streets upset him com- pletely. "Heap thunder," he said to his com- panion, and then he would crouch upon his crutches as though in momentary fear of being hit by something. The big domes of the fair and the mighty roof of manufactures building filled the old fellow with awe. He said he would visit them when "his eyes were rested and he did not see so big." Sitting Bull's cabin on Grand river, before whose door the old savage gave up his life at the beginning of the last war with the Sioux, was placed in posi- tion at the Sixty-third street grounds yesterday. It is built of oak and cotton wood logs, with a sood roof. The door Has been perforated in three places by Bullets, and two holes in the floor show Where deadly missiles entered after they Has passed through the bodies of Bull´s Sons.
Bismarck Weekly Tribune, April 28, 1893
The son of Major McLaughlin mentioned above according to other newspaper articles was Harry Mclaughlin.
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Post by Dietmar on Apr 6, 2020 6:39:56 GMT -5
Rain-in-the-Face was not only photographed by George E. Spencer while he was in Chicago in 1893, but also by Place & Coover: Rain-in-the-Face by Place & Coover, 1893 Pretty Face by Place & Coover, 1893
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Post by grahamew on Apr 6, 2020 7:44:51 GMT -5
That's great, Dietmar I'd thought this was a Place and Coover but his necktie's different. It's obviously from around that time.
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Post by grahamew on Apr 9, 2020 14:09:27 GMT -5
I'm currently re-posting as many Rain in the Face photos as I can find and I came across this: his Dakota/Metis-style coat at Heritage Auctions -
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Post by grahamew on Apr 10, 2020 9:15:03 GMT -5
I've gone through the thread and re-uploaded all the Rain in the Face photos I can find except the following, which allegedly show John Grass and rain in the Face and which have been referred to several times by a number of posters - so here you go: They were supposedly taken by Stephen T. 'Dick' Fansler at a tenth anniversary celebration/commemoration of Little Bighorn on the Crow Reservation in 1886, when the Crows hosted their former adversaries. This would be a couple of months earlier than the visit where Sitting Bull was at first insulted and then welcomed by the Crow and later criticised for stirring up anti-US Government feelings. If they were taken in 1886, this is too early for Fansler. It's feasible he was taking photos earlier, but I think he was in Ohio until 1889 or 1890 and he didn't open a studio until 1892 at Fort Yates after he was discharged from the army. This is the clearest version I've seen of the image that purports to show Grass and Rain in the Face. Does it show either? It doesn't look like Grass to me and how comfortably could Rain in the Face dance without his crutches? I don't think I've seen a non-studio shot of a full length Rain in the Face where he doesn't have his crutch when he's standing, never mind dancing. I will, of course, be happy to be proven wrong. The other images were # There are any number of similar images held by the Montana Historical Society, including this one, which surely shows the same men from a different angle: Accompanying text: Group of men, probably Crow Indians, dancing outdoors. Two of the men wear long feather headdresses decorated with horns. Some men wear breechcloths and bells. To one side are bundles and men in a wagon watching the dancers. Note: Bud Lake acquired this photograph as part of a scrapbook labeled 'taken on a camping trip of 10th Cav. from Ft. Custer, Montana, 1894-95,' and kept by William Henry Hay. Lake identified O.S. Goff as the photographer. Note: In April 2016, Grant Bulltail provided information about this photograph: This looks like some War Dance Society. Two men have horn headdresses with full eagle-feather trailers and pointed horn headdresses. The horns were heated and then bent and symbolize buffalo tails. Fringed leggings and vertical lines on leggings are military symbols and indicate the dancer is a leader of a war party. The long flat sashes are part of the breechcloth. The man in front in the print shirt has fringe made out of trade cloth and he also appears to be a pipe carrier. One man wears a dance bustle and another has a trailer coming off his head with what looks like squares with darker centers (made from some kind of bright shiny metal) indicating he is a member of a dance society and has done a lot of giveaways. One man carries a pointed stick and another has a large number of ermine tails on his shirt that indicate honors won in battle. mtmemory.org/digital/collection/p267301coll3/id/5794Fansler later occupied the studio that Barry and Goff had used so he possibly sold their work in his mounts later; of course, he took on Frank Fiske as an apprentice, who sold Fansler works in his mounts...
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Post by Dietmar on Apr 10, 2020 15:53:12 GMT -5
Thanks for all the work, Grahame.
I´m sure you think the same: these two above are neither Rain-in-the-Face nor John Grass. Someone wanted to sell pictures by coming up with prominent names and Little Bighorn fame.
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Post by grahamew on Apr 11, 2020 7:48:05 GMT -5
I suppose I should include this depiction of Rain in the Face by Kicking Bear: Rain in the Face (here: Rainy Face) is the man with the bird skin tied in his hair but Rod Thomas has suggested the figures have been mislabeled and that this is Crazy Horse and rain in the Face is the man in the bonnet. See Rod's Rubbing Out Long Hair.
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Post by Dietmar on Apr 11, 2020 8:57:45 GMT -5
I got these from Ebay auctions:
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Post by grahamew on Apr 11, 2020 9:21:53 GMT -5
Wow! He looks pretty old in the top photo. Wonder if they're Fiske's work
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Post by grahamew on Apr 12, 2020 4:01:01 GMT -5
This is a drawing of Rain in the Face by Edward Esmonde from life - probably at Coney Island when he was with some exhibition or other in 1894: This is Rain's diagram of Little Bighorn on the back of a buckskin jacket - made for Esmonde:
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Post by nicolas (carlo) on Apr 12, 2020 5:15:34 GMT -5
This is Rain's diagram of Little Bighorn on the back of a buckskin jacket - made for Esmonde: Never saw that one, very interesting!
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Post by grahamew on Apr 12, 2020 5:27:55 GMT -5
This is Rain's diagram of Little Bighorn on the back of a buckskin jacket - made for Esmonde: Never saw that one, very interesting! It's in Cyrus Townsend Brady's Indian Fights and Fighters.
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