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Feb 19, 2014 21:01:15 GMT -5
Post by kauail on Feb 19, 2014 21:01:15 GMT -5
I have just had my DNA completed as I know little regarding my ancestors. Was thrilled to see that I have 14% Native American. Being new to DNA studies is there a way to narrow down the tribal nation I am related to? Are there more specific tests that can be completed? The genetic profile given includes all of the North American and South American continents. Wouldn't it be wonderful to find all my relatives within my lifetime! My thanks to anyone who may contribute any information.
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Post by tkavanagh on Feb 19, 2014 21:27:03 GMT -5
"Is there a way to narrow down the tribal nation I am related to?"
No. Given that people(ahem)did it(/ahem)-- transfer DNA from one generation to the next -- without regard to "tribal" boundaries, which are relatively recent anyway, the whole concept of "tribally distinct" DNA cannot be possible and must be tossed.
tk Thomas Kavanagh, PhD (Anthropology)
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Post by summerof76 on May 1, 2014 18:25:45 GMT -5
I am also a lost spirit in sorts. All my mother could tell me is my fathers name and that he was full blooded Apache. Which tribe she was unsure of. I have always wanted to know more about my ancestors. I have read a lot but really don't know what to believe. My step father taught me that most of what we read about history is lies. I feel like I can believe my dreams more then what was written on paper. I have had the same dream since I was a child. It is both comforting and unsettling. I dream that I am walking along a stream searching for my family. A large hawk swoops down and gently carries me between some mountains to a tribe. Sensing that I was a bit uneasy a great chief places his hand on my shoulder and says softly. "Don't be afraid child, this is where you belong." At once I feel at ease. I am calmer than I have ever felt in my life. I am at home. I have read several stories about Lozen and can't help but wonder if I am in some way related to her. My personality is so much like what I have read hers to be. I was never much of a domestic. But I enjoy working myself to the bone in what is considered a mans profession. I have even started my own company in the field which is unheard of. I probably would have joined the Army if I wasn't so against our government. I have been like that since I was young though. I was never interested in things other girls were. In fact I rebelled against them as hard as I could. And my mother was always trying to snag my baseball cap off my head, telling me to act like a lady. Poor mom, she wanted a little lady to have tea parties with. She received a tom boy who would rather wrestle my brother then play with dolls. I know you can't tell that from the picture. Not real sure why I posted that one now that I think of it, strange. Maybe it was because of the responses I received when I posted it to face book. No one ever gets to see me like that so responses were amazing. Back on topic. Is there anyway you know of to find my relatives with only my fathers name? I know there is ancestry.com. I also know they are not all that accurate. And what are some good sources of reading that I can actually believe? I would appreciate any and all help on this. Thank you.
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Post by chicheman on May 5, 2014 18:00:33 GMT -5
summerof76,
one way might be to write or call tribal offices of the Apache tribes / nations. Usually tribes have ancestry/enrollment departments, specialists helping people doing research. So if your father was a member of one of the Nde tribes and listed in a tribal roll, his name might to be find. In the internet you can find easily tribal offices contacts of the different Nde people. Maybe some of our Nde forum members have any other ideas ? Good luck for you in your research.
chicheman
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Jun 18, 2014 11:28:13 GMT -5
Post by jarp1978 on Jun 18, 2014 11:28:13 GMT -5
Where do you get these DNA tests completed? How much do they run? I have strong connection to the Lakota Sioux Nation, but have no formal documentation or paper trail that leads back. My great grandfather is believed to be Broken Arm Lakota...Have no proof other than my own spiritual connection. Would like a blood test to prove history. I want to work on the reservation and help, I feel that is my life purpose is to reconnect and help in great ways.
Jennifer
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smacmill
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Oct 18, 2014 15:53:18 GMT -5
Post by smacmill on Oct 18, 2014 15:53:18 GMT -5
I have used both Ancesty.com and the National Geographic Genographic Project. But you won't get your tribe, just your degree of Native American.
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Oct 18, 2014 19:42:50 GMT -5
Post by ladonna on Oct 18, 2014 19:42:50 GMT -5
there is no DNA that can tell which tribe and the tribe don't accept DNA as proof that you are a part of the tribe
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Post by smacmill on Oct 22, 2014 12:00:06 GMT -5
I am a loyal user of Ancestry.com, but it is only one of many techniques I use to investigate my heritage. It is not that Ancestry.com is inaccurate, it is usually the old census records that are full of name misspellings, and dates of birth that are a little off. So you must get lots of records to get a consensus of what is accurate. I have found an amazing amount of info by just Googling names or topics. Often Google will present a page of a book that Google has digitized, and highlighted in yellow is the name or reference you've searched for. Most states and many large cities have their own genealogy organizations with websites. The Mormon genealogy website, FamilySearch.org is free, and you do not have to register to use it. I've found documents there that I didn't find on Ancestry.com. Regarding DNA, in the DNA world "Native American" means indigenous to North, Central, or South America, the source being the small group of people who originally migrated to North America, either by sea or land bridge from Asia, then over time populated the lands all the way through South America. One plus of doing DNA through Ancestry.com, is that they give you a list of other Ancestry.com members who've also done the test and who are likely related to you, even if very distantly. Then there are websites such as this one. Ladonna on this site has a fantastic well of information. I am a stickler for accuracy. Don't let wishful thinking lead you. Verify. Try to open your mind and think of new angles for your search. Sometimes you have to search on all sides to get at the center of your subject. Thinking about our ancestors and finding their truths will truly honor them.
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Post by smacmill on Oct 22, 2014 12:21:05 GMT -5
Another tip for newbie searchers. Don't limit your search to "Indian style" names. At least on the plains, in the 19th century many Native American women married trappers, river men, and even cavalry soldiers. In the instance of the first two, they very often were of French descent. So although my Sioux family line is fairly well documented, there are just a handful of ancestors with "Indian style" names listed. It didn't take long in the second half of the 19th century for most of my family to carry Anglicized names. Also, you can see by looking at the early annual Indian Census Rolls that the gov was trying to get the people to convert from the old names to Anglicized names. So keep an open mind when name searching. For example, a man whom my great grand aunt did interpreting work with, had a lovely photo portrait done of him as a boy, "Pretty Rock", but when we see his portrait again as an adult, he is "Felix Brunot". Good luck everyone.
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