debstar76
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Post by debstar76 on Jan 26, 2013 15:24:28 GMT -5
A website visitor asked me about scans of the famous Sicangu author Luther Standing Bear to use them in a movie project. If you have better quality scans of Luther portraits, please let me know, I would hand them on. This is a good opportunity to start a thread about the Standing Bear Family. I´m sure all of you have read one or more books of Luther SB, whose Lakota name was Ota K'te (Plenty Kill). I begin to post some pictures of him. Please feel free to add info or photos you have. Deitmier..Picture number 10 down of Luther SB..is not him in profile..it is Good Voice.. Deb Luther Standing Bear arriving at Carlisle Indian School in 1879 Luther in Carlisle Standing Bear (his father) & Luther in Carlisle Red Fish, Luther & Standing Bear Luther and two other students at Carlisle Luther playing trumpet in Carlisle Standing Bear Family Luther 1894 Luther 1894 Luther in profile Luther with Buffalo Bill´s Wild West Show Luther´s wife and son
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Post by johnhafnor on Mar 19, 2013 17:18:09 GMT -5
Re: Standing Bear, Singing Goose. Further to my research on the rather obscure tiyospaye of Elk Robe and son James Stands For Them, I heard from one Charles Standing Bear, still living and in a White River nursing home, that Stands For Them and a man named Singing Goose would make the rounds in 1930s in a wagon to "pray over the people" in the Cedarbutte and Corn Creek communities. Would this be John Singing Goose, born 1905? That seems inconsistent with Stands For Them's age, then in his late 70s. Ideas?
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Post by badbear91 on Aug 20, 2015 18:53:48 GMT -5
Wonderful photos/comments on the Standing Bears. I had honor of interviewing one Richard (Dick) Standing Bear (b. approx. 1928) about 18 months ago at nursing home in White River, SD. He may be nephew or second cousin of Luther. Thoughts? Anyway, I sought him out as he was one of last living persons to have known the subject of my next book, another Corn Creek resident, the minor headman James Stands For Them (1856? - 1939). Can't believe the generous sharing of time/knowledge I've experienced on this forum-- in particular Kingsley B. and Ephriam D. Any further nuggets on Richard S.B. or James SFT most welcome.
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Post by badbear91 on Aug 20, 2015 18:55:42 GMT -5
My name is Richard Standing Bear and the Richard Standing Bear is my great grandfather very interesting to run into this online.
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Post by badbear91 on Aug 20, 2015 18:59:26 GMT -5
Thank you for sharing these amazing pics. Luther was my great-grandfather. His son was actually Eugene George, my Grandfather. His son was George Eugene who was my father. My grandfather married my grandmother, daughter of Osage chief Fred Lookout. Unfortunately, Eugene died when I was 19, so I don't know much about my Sioux relatives. I had never seen these pictures before. I will share them with my family. Thanks again!!
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Post by badbear91 on Aug 20, 2015 19:00:27 GMT -5
My name is Richard Standing Bear I am a relative of yours.
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Post by Dietmar on Aug 24, 2015 11:48:08 GMT -5
Richard,
welcome to this forum. We are pleased to have you here.
Best wishes
Dietmar
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eric
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Post by eric on Sept 11, 2015 3:05:18 GMT -5
Hi I'm a new member, but I have been reading and enjoying the site for some time. I recently ran across a Pyctography from a "Standing Bear" sold at Skinner Auctions. you find it at this link www.skinnerinc.com/auctions/2636B/lots/165The figure shows a Kangi yuha long lance bearer with the name glyph of an upright bear and the text Mato Naji (on pintrest it is erronously quoted as Matnona Yo) Dorsey gives Kangi Yuha (crow owner) as a Brulé band, so they must have been popular with the Brulé. So this might be The Brulé Standing Bear (the elder) is there any other information for this? I havent figured out how to add pictures, maybe one of the administrators can look into it. Greetings, eric
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Post by kingsleybray on Sept 11, 2015 9:38:18 GMT -5
It seems that this drawing was the work of Stephen Standing Bear, no known relation (I emphasise 'known') of Luther Standing Bear's family. I think it is meant to depict an earlier chief associated with the Oyuhpe band of Oglalas, one of the sons of Shoulder (a signatory chief to the 1825 Atkinson-O'Fallon treaty). This Standing Bear, or Mato Hi-nazhin, literally Bear Stops Standing, was an Oyuhpe Shirt Wearer around the period 1850. He carries the lance of the Kangi Yuha society, as you say, eric. Be interesting to know something of the symbolism of the paint design on his legs -- horse tracks? And he seems to be shaking hands with someone (a white man? check the sleeve and cuff) depicted on the facing page of the original book. In the Edmond Meany interviews posted by Ephriam, check the Red Warbonnet interview, RW being a younger son of Shoulder's: "His brother Whirlwind Track -- Wa-mini-yo-mini-o-ye succeeded his father Shoulder as chief. Red War Bonnet succeeded his brother Standing Bear as chief." Read more: amertribes.proboards.com/thread/2007/red-war-bonnet-oyuhpe#ixzz3lRMfo2Bt
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eric
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Post by eric on Sept 14, 2015 7:13:16 GMT -5
I missed the shaking hands,..... Great observation! I couldn't find the other page, can you post the link please.
Indeed, the meaning of the "so called horse tracks" is interesting, they are often refered to as either stolen horses or horseraids. there are about sixty on his legs here, if every symbol represents a stolen horse he had a good raid.
I find the depiction of the lance interesting, it's a bit different from the Amos Bad heart Bull's depiction,as well as the one in Wissler, here the long lance has the head and neck of the crow (wissler put's it on the short lance). Also the eagle feather on the end is not standing up but hanging down....
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Post by kingsleybray on Sept 14, 2015 9:45:47 GMT -5
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Post by Karla on Sept 16, 2015 12:30:06 GMT -5
I was wondering if this artist Stephen Standing Bear could be the same Stephen Standing Bear who was Black Elk’s good friend? Black Elk’s friend Stephen Standing Bear was Minneconjou and he sketched images of Black Elk’s vision for Neihardt in Black Elk Speaks. On the auction site next to the picture it says Note: Experts believe the artists may be the same illustrator from "Black Elk Speaks"
Some notes I had previously taken for Standing Bear include: in early 1891 while in Austria (with the Wild West Show), Standing Bear learned of the tragedy at Wounded Knee. His wife had died. But during his time in the hospital he became close to a nurse, Louise Rieneck, who had begun to learn Lakota from her patient. In 1891, Standing Bear and Louise married and returned to the United States in February along with Louise's family. The family moved to Pine Ridge, where the couple built simple, lined caskets that were cheaper than those sold by the government. The venture was successful enough that Standing Bear and Louise moved to a new home near Manderson in 1900 and they added medical care to their list of services, based on Louise's knowledge of European medicine. By 1911, Standing Bear and Louise had borne three daughters, moved into a large cabin, barn, 640 acres of land, and owned cattle and horses).
One more question: If Stephen Standing Bear's wife died at Wounded Knee, is related to the Chief Standing Bear who died at Wounded Knee? Does anyone have more information on Stephen Standing Bear and his lineage.
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Post by eric on Nov 10, 2015 9:41:36 GMT -5
Hello Kingsley,
I've been off line for a while, my laptop crashed.....
I would interpret the neck ornament as the Kangi Yuha neclace as well. There is another pretty good pictographic depiction of the necklace in Barbeau's "Indian days on the western prairies" on page 168. plate 123.
The Kangi Yuha has several traits in common with the Omaha/grass dance society(skunk garters, crowbelts, short lances) and in the Barbeau drawing, a roach like headdress. I believe these two societies are linked, with the K.Y. being the older one among the Sioux (the grass dance was purchased after 1865 and the description in Lewis and Clarck's journal on the members of the "soldiers lodge" bears a lot of resemblance to the K.Y.)
I have found no reference to the artist of the Barbeau drawing.
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Post by jlonedog on Dec 11, 2015 15:42:12 GMT -5
I am a direct relative of Standing Bear. How were you able to find all these pictures? Anything become of the movie? A lot of his relations are still around and involved. I will be taking my mom his great granddaughter back to Rosebud soon for burial.
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Post by sbigcrow on Feb 8, 2016 4:06:39 GMT -5
Anpetu waśté mitakuyé (Good day my relatives), Firstly, thank you for work and dedication to initiating an educational website as such.
My name is Stephanie Big Crow, Oglala Lakota, I was raised on the Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota. I come from the Big Crow and Little Hawk Tiyospaye (extended families) all of which reside in Pine Ridge. For years I have been trying to find more information on my material/paternal grandparents. My family has a limited understanding of the lineage, we've asked the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) and have had limited success. If either of you has any additional information on my families origin, I would be extremely grateful. Here are the names of my grandparents, as follows:
Paternal grandparents: My Father: Timothy Big Crow (Oglala Lakota), my fathers parents:
Mother: Marcella Sue Standing Bear-Mills-Big Crow-Martin (Oglala Lakota), orphaned young, Mother: Ora Standing Bear, daughter of Henry Standing Bear jr/sr? Father: Walter Mills, (Oglala Lakota), adopted and raised by Walters brother Sid Mills? Married James Big Crow (Oglala Lakota), born 24 children (9 sets of twins, 6 singles), my Father is the forth set of twins born, Tim Big Crow (Oglala Lakota).
Father: James Big Crow (Oglala Lakota), Mother Theresa Garcia? Father?
Maternal Grandparents: Mother Carla Alford (Oglala Lakota), Mothers Parents:
Maternal Grandmother: Violet Little Hawk-Alford-Brave Heart, her Mother is Eloria (Aloria) Sierra (Oglala Lakota), married Charles Little Hawk Sr., have seven children together all reside in Calico District in Pine Ridge, SD.
Maternal Grandfather: Wasicu wicasa emachiyapi Alford.
The families names I'm most interested in are the following: Standing Bear, Big Crow, Little Hawk.
I'm very grateful that I stumbled upon this website looking for information on my Mato Najin tiwahe. Thank you all for your time and dedication, your compassion to share knowledge has provoked me to keep searching for answers of my families lineage. Wopila tanks mitakuye, toksa ake.
Stephanie Big Crow Email: sbigcrow@gmail.com (please place the phrase "Ameri-Information" in the subject title to differentiate between unwarranted spam. Thanks!
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