Hunkpapas surrendering in 1881

[Dietmar]

We had several earlier discussions on this photograph by Frank Haynes of Lakota chiefs surrendering in 1881 and argued about identifications. The threads are here:

from the LBH board:
www.american-tribes.com/Articles/ART/Hunkpapas1881.htm

Spotted Eagle thread:
amertribes.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=sansarc1&action=display&thread=292&page=1

The Nebraska State Historical Society now has a more complete list of all men in the photo:



"This is a group photo showing several members of the Dakota Tribe and white men. They are either inside of, or in front of a tent with the flaps open. Seated, L to R: Philip Wells, interpreter; Chief Gall; Crawler; Crow King; Running Antelope; Rain in the Face. Standing, L to R: Bruigier; Louis Sitting Bull; Al Parkhurst; Chatka Agare; Chase Walking; Yellow Hawk; Fool Bear; Brave Thunder."

It remains the impression that Crow King is more likely Low Dog and Fool Bear looks a lot like Spotted Eagle, but we have now some more names of the whites and halfbreeds in the picture.
Is it Johnny Brughiere?

[grahamew]

Wasn't it the case that the surrendering chiefs were presented with hats and coats and paint? Gold paint, maybe... and Rain in the Face was described as using the paint on his face?

Who is Chatka Agare?

[Dietmar]

Perhaps Louis Agar?

[emilylevine]

Yes, Johnny Bruguier.
Chat Agard: 5. Louis Agard (1864-May 2, 1939) was called Chat, short for Čhatká, or Left-handed. He was the mixed blood son of Frenchman Louis Agard and full blood Lakota Mary Brocell. The father had been with the American Fur Company and was one of Custer’s interpreters on the 1874 expedition into the Black Hills. Chat married Mollie Pretty Woman, called in various records Monica, White Mouse, and Wiŋesteka (1867-1911), and the couple had around twelve children. Louis had settled into stock-raising and his son (called “senior,” as he too had a son named Louis) followed him in this pursuit. “They had a well built place on the river bottoms, just south of the big hill, and Louis (Chat) Agard, the senior, had a large number of horses. He branded LA on the left shoulder” (early settler Louis O. Huseboe in 1972, in Tidball, Taming the Plains, 512).

[grahamew]

Thanks. I can't get to it at the moment, but I seem to remember the bit about the paint and presents frpm Graham's Custer Myth book.

[Dietmar]

Thanks Emily,

here are two portraits of Chat Louis Agard:


by Fiske




...and more information on the Colonel Welch Papers site:

www.welchdakotapapers.com/2011/10/indian-histories-from-aagard-to-burr-44-individuals/#louis-aagard

[ladonna]

Mar 28, 2012 15:19:12 GMT -5 Dietmar said:

We had several earlier discussions on this photograph by Frank Haynes of Lakota chiefs surrendering in 1881 and argued about identifications. The threads are here:

from the LBH board:
www.american-tribes.com/Articles/ART/Hunkpapas1881.htm

Spotted Eagle thread:
amertribes.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=sansarc1&action=display&thread=292&page=1

The Nebraska State Historical Society now has a more complete list of all men in the photo:



"This is a group photo showing several members of the Dakota Tribe and white men. They are either inside of, or in front of a tent with the flaps open. Seated, L to R: Philip Wells, interpreter; Chief Gall; Crawler; Crow King; Running Antelope; Rain in the Face. Standing, L to R: Bruigier; Louis Sitting Bull; Al Parkhurst; Chatka Agare; Chase Walking; Yellow Hawk; Fool Bear; Brave Thunder."

It remains the impression that Crow King is more likely Low Dog and Fool Bear looks a lot like Spotted Eagle, but we have now some more names of the whites and halfbreeds in the picture.
Is it Johnny Brughiere?

Chief Gall; Crawler; Crow King; Running Antelope; Rain in the Face, Louis Sitting Bull; Brave Thunder; Chase Walking and Agard are all Lakota not Dakota

[Dietmar]

These are the pictures I have of Johnny Brugier or Brughiere:








He looks much younger than in the 1881 Haynes photo, doesn´t he?

[emilylevine]

Deitmar
I had tried to figure out who has originals of these images and owns the rights so that I could use them in the Waggoner book. Never could. Ended up using a fairly poor reproduction of a different image of him that she had in her files.

[mbermudezagard]

Louis AGARD is my direct descendent, he is from the lakota. He is of French heritage. :-)

[grahamew]

When do we think this was actually taken? Spotted Eagle and Rain in the Face had surrendered late 1880, hadn't they? Huffman photographed Spotted Eagle's camp in the winter. Gall followed in January 1881 - was this with Crow King and Low Dog, when Barry took the photos? This one has to be later. There are leaves on the branches of the arbor. I wonder what the occasion was. I've also seen it labelled 1883...

Could it be on the occasion of the last buffalo hunt of 1882, which McLaughlin describes? In the alternative view - which I only have as a small and poor copy, there are white women and children too.

The figure usually identified as Louie Sitting Bull isn't wearing the same vest as in the Barry photo, though there's no reason why he couldn't have modified it by then because that dates from the mid 80s. To be honest, I'm not even sure he looks like him. Hard to tell at this distance, I know, but he seems younger in the Barry photo.

I wonder if it's the occasion of the Indians being turned over to the Interior Department in July 1881. The leaders were given suits of clothing at the time and it looks like Gall and Running Antelope have similar jackets and the latter and Rain have similar (new) hats. The slightly later date might explain why Rain is holding a photo of himself.

Anyhow... just thinking out loud.

[joseph59]

The two photographs with a person posed next to a stuffed coyote are not Johnny Bruguiere.

Through research of my own photograph & it's photographer, these photographs were in all likelihood taken around 1900, in San Diego, CA.

[Dietmar]

Welcome joseph59,

and thank you for clarifying. Do you know who the photographer was and who instead could be in the photos?

[Dietmar]

So here are the two known portraits that show Johnny Brughiere:


Johnny Brughiere or Brugier


Actually, after looking again into the 1881 group photo, I can see no resemblance to the man identified there as Brugier.

[carlo]

Not a very clear match I agree, but I do think that the nose and especially the chin are quite similar to the Brugier potrait on the right. Leaner face and darker/tanned complection; could stil be him though.