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Post by kayitah on Mar 25, 2012 6:12:04 GMT -5
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Post by jeroen on Mar 26, 2012 5:28:02 GMT -5
This is great news indeed! I visited the area between Lordsburg and Deming recently, it is very poor and the local economy could really use a boost, so the casino plan will get sufficient support here...hope there are plans for a cultural center/museum as well...
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Post by pullingup on Apr 8, 2012 2:53:32 GMT -5
Fort Sill Apache Reservation Attachments:
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Post by Mithlo on Apr 11, 2012 22:47:53 GMT -5
A good thing for those who wish to go there,yet..... one must remember that in 1912-1913....... one of every three "Chose" to stay here! Fort Sill and the Apache village's sat near Cache Creek and Medicine Creek at the far eastern foot-hills of the Wichita Mountains." Our" mountains here are like a large beautiful island on the southern plains!!!!
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Post by Mithlo on Apr 11, 2012 22:56:56 GMT -5
I was born here!!!! Attachments:
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Post by Mithlo on Apr 11, 2012 22:57:51 GMT -5
I was raised here!!!! Attachments:
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Post by Mithlo on Apr 11, 2012 22:58:50 GMT -5
This is my home!!!! Attachments:
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Post by Mithlo on Apr 11, 2012 23:01:16 GMT -5
Think I stay HERE!!!! Attachments:
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Post by jasper4 on Apr 12, 2012 12:54:49 GMT -5
Ft Sill NDE still have the issue that the mescalero dont want the new rez to have a casino on it. Yet having kin in both places OKLA and NM, it is still a good move. Yet to have land near the real old land say around the gila natl forest and to the east of sorroco or the black range, but I as my Cuz will take OKLA
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Post by kayitah on Apr 12, 2012 13:01:55 GMT -5
Wow, you were born and live in a very beautiful place. I can understand very well that you don't want to leave the place where you grew up. What a wonderful scenery, hopefully I can visit your people when I'm in the States the next time.
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Post by pullingup on Apr 14, 2012 15:54:43 GMT -5
The Army applied great pressure to force the Apache prisoners of war to join the Mescalero tribe so the army would not have to give up any land at Fort Sill for allottments. The Reformed church had to intervene, but by then the damage had been done. It is heartbreaking to read the pleas of the POWs to be allowed to return to their own home territory. Some of the Fort Sill Apaches have maintained their connection to the area and the sacred place where generations of their ancestors were born, and struggled and died. The old folks said, "All of our homeland is sacred." so even the smallest part is something precious for the Fort Sill Apache tribe.
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Post by jasper4 on Apr 15, 2012 20:28:09 GMT -5
Before the name "Fort Sill Apache" was applied, the Tribe was what the linguists and anthropologists refer to as the Chiricahua Apache Tribe. The Fort Sill Apache Tribe is made up of the descendants of the Chiricahua Apache who were held as Prisoners of War by the United States from 1886 – 1914. The name "Fort Sill Apache" was applied to the group while imprisoned at Fort Sill and was retained by the portion of the tribe that received allotments of land in Oklahoma. The Chiricahua Apache were made up of 4 bands: •Chihende - also known as Warm Springs Apache Band. •Chukunende – also known as the Chiricahua Band. •Nde’ndai – sometimes known as Pinery Apache Band. •Bidanku – sometimes known as Bronco Apache Band.
And there in lies a interesting fact, which at the time of the migration, caused many say of the Warmsprings or Mimbreno to not want to go to the Mescalero rez, while the western NDE of Naiche did. All the while the issue or irony that many still felt betrayed by the group of Geronimo and Naiche for causing all of the NDE to be made POW, this was still very much alive in the 1950's. And beyond the reach of those who write on the topic.
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