Post by kingsleybray on Nov 16, 2011 5:52:06 GMT -5
yes John Grass is buried at Ft Yates - but the grave described above by Col. Welch is that of John Grass's father, known also as Grass and as Used As A Shield. He died in June 1873 and was buried at or adjacent to the military cemetery at Grand River Agency.
I have a map of the old Grand River agency but have not scan it yet, its too large, I have walked the area in the past which is mostly under water these days. After the building of the damns the area was flooded. You could write me @ email@example.com and i can get your address and send it to you.
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Post by kingsleybray on Nov 29, 2011 15:22:41 GMT -5
Amazing, indeed, Dietmar! From the material online at the link you posted, I selected this since it bears directly on the death and burial of John Grass's father at the military post at Grand River Agency, June 1873, after being treated by ahmann's relative Dr. Mann.
Question: When did Used as a Shield, the father of John Grass, die”
"He died at Grand River Agency before it was moved to Fort Yates, 1873. The soldiers buried him with bugles. They buried him in the ground, although we wanted him placed in a tree. I was there. I got there just as they were going to put him in the ground."
statement by Oyuhpe-win, Throws Down Woman, or Auntie Cross
There are photographs accompanying the Welch material showing the pile of stones marking the grave when Welch visited it in 1939 with John Grass's sister, Throws Down Woman.
Interesting to read how (although the family would have prefrred him to have been buried above ground, "in a tree") an Indian chief was buried with military honours at a frontier post in 1873.
Post by kingsleybray on Oct 24, 2012 3:19:02 GMT -5
carlo, the nearest thing to a birth date I have found for Uses Him As A Shield is his own statement in council with treaty commissioners at Fort Sully, October 19, 1865. He opened the Sihasapa council with a long speech which began:
"My brothers, I have a few words to say. I will speak of many things - a little of each. I have now been here with the whites on the Missouri river forty-seven years. I was raised with them."
1865 minus 47 years yields 1818 as a possible birth date. It's also possible that he is referring to the arrival of traders in the Lakota country, an event which he remembered from boyhood. But that's the best I can do!
Thank you Kingsley, you never cease to amaze me with your sources!
An 1818 date would certainly be possible; he would then have been a father by his 19th birthday, if we take his son's John Grass' earliest possible birthdate of 1837, the year most often mentioned in the Welch Dakota Papers.
To all: Incidently, the Welch Papers seem to be completely online now. As stated earlier here, it contains terrific source material and is well worth a visit: www.welchdakotapapers.com.