Bear With Horns

[Diane Merkel]

I received the following message on the Little Bighorn boards (lbha.proboards.com) and hope someone can verify the information before I make changes to the mini-biographies that are on this and the LittleBighorn.info website.

I see where this website has Bear With Horns listed as a Lakota who was killed at the battle as a Hunkpapa... actually he was Itazipcho... I know this because he was my great grandmother Lucy Fights the Thunder, Poor Buffalo's older brother. My great grandmother's name was also Grows In A Day (named after this battle) we have many names in my family that commemorate the battle for example one of my Auntie's name is Comes Home Hard named for Hump being wounded and how hard it was for him to travel. Bear With Horns was the son of Fights the Thunder who was a brother to Spotted Eagle the Naca of our Tiyospaye who was very close to Sitting Bull... we have many, many stories about this battle. I hope you can make the change. I believe White Bull also listed him as Itazipcho.

Diane

[Diane Merkel]

Fred Wagner's new book, Participants in the Battle of the Little Big Horn: A Biographical Dictionary of Sioux, Cheyenne and United States Military Personnel, may provide the answer. In his listing for Bear Horn:

There may have been a Sans Arc named Bear with Horns (Hardorff lists one such man), who is sometimes cited as a Hunkpapa.

There may have been two men at the battle with similar names.

For more information about Fred's book -- which has over 90 pages devoted to Indian listings -- see www.mcfarlandpub.com/book-2.php?id=978-0-7864-6289-6.

[miller7513]

Diane-I need to post a picture of my daughter-in-laws gr grandmother Alice Red Bear-what is the procedure?

[Dietmar]

LaDeane,

please follow this instruction:

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[ladonna]

I would change it to Itazipcho

[herosrest]

I was led here like an unguided log drifting down a river's stream.

David Humphries Miller - 'Old Eagle (Amos Clown), an Itazipcho or Sansarc Sioux warrior, fought under Chief Spotted Eagle, fighting Sansarc leader at the Battle of Little Big Horn. Old Eagle was only 13 that summer. He and his brother Bear Horns first fought in the defense of the Indian village against Major Reno’s attack, in which Bear Horns killed a soldier and took his weapons.

“In 1940 when I met him, he was suffering along with most other Sioux in the dust-bowl depression. At 77, he was stalwart enough to suggest an earlier powerful physique.” – David Humphreys Miller, Thunder Butte, SD 1940


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[jenny]

May 11, 2021 9:26:32 GMT -5 herosrest said:

I was led here like an unguided log drifting down a river's stream.

David Humphries Miller - 'Old Eagle (Amos Clown), an Itazipcho or Sansarc Sioux warrior, fought under Chief Spotted Eagle, fighting Sansarc leader at the Battle of Little Big Horn. Old Eagle was only 13 that summer. He and his brother Bear Horns first fought in the defense of the Indian village against Major Reno’s attack, in which Bear Horns killed a soldier and took his weapons.

“In 1940 when I met him, he was suffering along with most other Sioux in the dust-bowl depression. At 77, he was stalwart enough to suggest an earlier powerful physique.” – David Humphreys Miller, Thunder Butte, SD 1940


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Hi HR -the same confusion remains: was this the same Bear With Horns that was killed on Battle Ridge? Were there two men by this name, and if so which one (or both?) were killed at KBH?

Thanks,
Jenny

[jenny]

Jul 8, 2011 23:30:38 GMT -5 Diane Merkel said:

I received the following message on the Little Bighorn boards (lbha.proboards.com) and hope someone can verify the information before I make changes to the mini-biographies that are on this and the LittleBighorn.info website.

I see where this website has Bear With Horns listed as a Lakota who was killed at the battle as a Hunkpapa... actually he was Itazipcho... I know this because he was my great grandmother Lucy Fights the Thunder, Poor Buffalo's older brother. My great grandmother's name was also Grows In A Day (named after this battle) we have many names in my family that commemorate the battle for example one of my Auntie's name is Comes Home Hard named for Hump being wounded and how hard it was for him to travel. Bear With Horns was the son of Fights the Thunder who was a brother to Spotted Eagle the Naca of our Tiyospaye who was very close to Sitting Bull... we have many, many stories about this battle. I hope you can make the change. I believe White Bull also listed him as Itazipcho.

Diane

Hi Diane - did you ever hear any more from the person who sent this? I see Bear with Horns remains listed as Hunkpapa. My question: was the Itazipcho Bear With Horns killed at LBH?

Thanks,

Jenny

[Diane Merkel]

I don't recall hearing more.

Diane