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Geronimo
Mar 16, 2016 17:38:04 GMT -5
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Post by dT on Mar 16, 2016 17:38:04 GMT -5
Jasper4 ... thank you for your thoughts. You are right. The final escape by Geronimo caused all the Chiricahua to become POW's. This was a bitter ending to the wars.
I thought for a long time about why Goyahkla kept leaving the reservation. Maybe he was the type of person who could not be happy in confinement ... the Reservation was a prison for him. Maybe he had fears that other people would kill him on the Reservation. Or maybe there were special ceremonies that he needed to do at the Sacred Places. We will never know the truth. But thanks for your reply.
Angela: I suggest that you read the book "I fought with Geronimo" by Jason Betzinez. Mr. Betzinez was a Warm Springs Apache, and therefore this influences his thoughts. But the book is authentic. Best wishes for your research. People here are not offended by honest questions.
dT
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Post by jasper4 on Mar 18, 2016 14:49:53 GMT -5
Jasper4 ... thank you for your thoughts. You are right. The final escape by Geronimo caused all the Chiricahua to become POW's. This was a bitter ending to the wars. I thought for a long time about why Goyahkla kept leaving the reservation. Maybe he was the type of person who could not be happy in confinement ... the Reservation was a prison for him. Maybe he had fears that other people would kill him on the Reservation. Or maybe there were special ceremonies that he needed to do at the Sacred Places. We will never know the truth. But thanks for your reply. Angela: I suggest that you read the book "I fought with Geronimo" by Jason Betzinez. Mr. Betzinez was a Warm Springs Apache, and therefore this influences his thoughts. But the book is authentic. Best wishes for your research. People here are not offended by honest questions. dT Dagote DT, The chiricahua were out together at san carlos rez. The thought of san carlos and meaning no disrespect to those there now or ever for myself is it is a dismal place. The chiricahuaa hated it there due to the location and the other apaches. Also the fact remains that the anglo wanted all apaches gone as geronimo he feared that he would be hung. Or he longed for the old way raiding and warfare of killing mexicans. As for Mr Betzinez he was kin to geronimo and he is buried close to geronimo at fort sill. Be Well Brother
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Post by Angela on Mar 23, 2016 11:00:48 GMT -5
jasper4 - „smart yet not wise“ … :-) I've read about the controversial opinions. These were very difficult times and probably there was no perfect solution to this situation. I've read that he told his nephew Daklugie that he regretted to have not fought until the end.
dt - I didn’t read „I fought with Geronimo“ by Jason Betzinez until now. I have read some books and seen some documentaries and always wondered about the different pronunciations and spellings. And because I was already very interested in the language "Apache", I ordered the dictionary „Apache-English“. And so I made my own conclusions …
dt - you wrote in 2014 and 2015 about „earth changes“. Just how I see this things: There have been very bad things in the past centuries. Everything goes in cycles and when the pendula goes on the one side, then it has to go on the other side. If mankind is not able to ensure a peaceful compensation (and currently I don’t see enough indications for this …), we all will have to deal with the consequences. But ultimately it will be good, in the end it will make perfect sense. That's just how I see it.
I am German and my English is good enough for reading books but not good enough for writing … so I apologize for my non-perfekt-English :-)
Best wishes, Angela
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Post by dT on Mar 28, 2016 20:24:08 GMT -5
Jasper4 ... greetings. I agree completely with what you said. i have also been to San Carlos. i do not mean any disrespect to the Nde people who live there, or to their reservation. But i agree ... it is a dismal place. And it is no HOME for Apaches, who were a people of the mountains. It is disgraceful that the US Government forced the Apache people to live on that piece of land. It was a very cruel punishment to put the Rez there.
Angela ... i understand what you say. Yes, the Earth has been through cycles in the past. But this time things are different. We now have more than 7,000 million people living on this planet. By the year 2060 we will have 9 billion people. The only way this can be accomplished is if EVERYONE changes their lifestyle completely, so that living habits are fully sustainable and people cooperate in peace. Unfortunately, this is NOT happening. Wars and conflicts are growing. We share the Earth with 7 billion people who are driven by greed, lies, and war. There is only one outcome for a planet that follows an unsustainable path .... a path of destruction. Therefore, I agree with Jasper4. This world is headed for a disaster, in this century. This is a good time for you to pray and prepare.
Blessings, dT
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Post by grahamew on Sept 7, 2020 14:48:04 GMT -5
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Post by Californian on Nov 19, 2020 20:03:06 GMT -5
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Post by Californian on Feb 24, 2024 14:43:21 GMT -5
Geronimo by R.A. Ewing, Oklahoma City OK click onto images to enlarge
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Post by Californian on Feb 24, 2024 14:50:49 GMT -5
and one more by R.A. Ewing, Oklahoma City OK click onto image to enlarge
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