John H. Fouch

[Dietmar]

Great stuff, Grahame!

In fact the first time I´ve seen a Fouch catalogue.

I´ve found at the Smithsonian this comment about High Backbone portrait by Fouch:

"High Backbone, a Cheyenne Indian, or Hump, a Sioux Indian married to a Cheyenne woman"

[grahamew]

Interesting that only one picture of Joseph is on the list. Makes me hold out hope that there are other photos from this period out there. Reading Brust's articles, it's notable that he reckons Huffman didn't arrive at Keogh until two years after it's often claimed he did, though it is obvious now that some credited to him are the work of Morrow (the Two Moons and Wolf Voice photos that have the backdrop altered, for example). Fascinating stuff.

[Dietmar]

I´m still thinking about the High Backbone picture. It would make sense if Fouch photographed him as one of the most important leaders of the Lakota at Fort Keogh. But I´m not sure if there is a resemblance to the later Hump photos. Sometimes light and angle could mislead you though.

Of Fouch´s single portraits we have seen all from the posted list, except "Mike, the Wild White Boy". Anyone seen this picture?

[grahamew]

I don't think it looks like him either.

[grahamew]

Isn't that light/dark braid wrapping more associated with the Cheyenne, probably originating in the south?



This list was issued in the 1880s when he was living at Lake Minnetonka, Minnesota

See www.yellowstonestereoviews.com/publishers/fouch.html

[nicolas (carlo)]

Great stuff as always Grahame!
Do you know if the other Crow camp photos (# 34/35/37) are online anywhere?

[grahamew]

Sorry. I haven't come across them.

[charlie]

In a Series Books of Osprey Publishing, an article about LBH tell that LITTLE POWDER was present in the battle leading a small band of 5 men at all.
In Astonisher Library there is an interwiew (and photos) of 1920 at LEFT HAND and WATERMAN were the two ancient chief told the name of other three Arapaho warriors present at LBH: YELLOW EAGLE - YELLOW FLY - SAGE (or GREEN GRASS). No mention about LITTLE POWDER.
And LEFT HAND told that he was half Cheyenne and half Blackfoot adopted by the Arapaho. In the Oklahoma Historical Society there is a brief bio about LEFT HAND (NIWOT) born in 1840, succeeded to Little Raven as principal chief of Southern Arapaho in 1889 that died at Darlington in June 28, 1911. Watching the photos seems to be the same person. But he died in 1911 or after 1920? Or does it exist a third famous Left Hand? What a mess!

[charlie]

Any info about HIGH BACKBONE Cheyenne? Do he was an important warrior?

[rodthomas]

The link to "Fouchfamilydotcome" goes to a pornographic japanese website. I will be shutting down and scanning now!!!

Rod...

[grahamew]

Thanks, Rod. Apologies for that. The link has now been removed and they don't seem to have put up the pdf anywhere else.

[rodthomas]

Good mornin' all...thanks and no apologies necessary. As I have discovered, there are broken links throughout the board along with missing images, in most topics, even to the "main site" of the specific link - museums, libraries, etc. Just gone. I'll be going through more over the next few days. Crazy but the problem with the deterioation of digital data discussed two decades ago that now appears coming true. All best and stay well!!!

[grahamew]

Unfortunately, a lot of the images were hosted by Tinypic and when they went under, we lost the images.

[rodthomas]

Now I understand. I will try the "way back machine" at archive.org and see what I can find. I thought I had posted just before my alert about the Fouch site but cannot find it. What I posted was that in the top five of my research projects is a history of early U.S. western photographers. I know of some but there are so many and now with digitization of collections these show up with some effort. But I don't understand the histories of them - who were they, where and when did they shoot, collections, archives, etc., that hold their work, etc. - nor do I have a good feel for the importance of each. Any help to getting me started is appreciated - references, histories, etc., - anything so I can start at square one. Thanks...as always.

Take care and stay well...Rod...

[grahamew]

Aug 1, 2021 13:02:03 GMT -5 charlie said:

In a Series Books of Osprey Publishing, an article about LBH tell that LITTLE POWDER was present in the battle leading a small band of 5 men at all.
In Astonisher Library there is an interwiew (and photos) of 1920 at LEFT HAND and WATERMAN were the two ancient chief told the name of other three Arapaho warriors present at LBH: YELLOW EAGLE - YELLOW FLY - SAGE (or GREEN GRASS). No mention about LITTLE POWDER.
And LEFT HAND told that he was half Cheyenne and half Blackfoot adopted by the Arapaho. In the Oklahoma Historical Society there is a brief bio about LEFT HAND (NIWOT) born in 1840, succeeded to Little Raven as principal chief of Southern Arapaho in 1889 that died at Darlington in June 28, 1911. Watching the photos seems to be the same person. But he died in 1911 or after 1920? Or does it exist a third famous Left Hand? What a mess!

A ridiculously late reply, I know, but... The Left Hand connected to Little Raven was a different man. While this is the group of Aarapho most people know about, it's possible there were other individuals with the Lakota or Cheyenne, presumably some had married into the tribes.