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Post by jinlian on Jul 12, 2008 7:12:44 GMT -5
I've spotted in the catalogue of an online bookshop this documentary: about the two Tasunka Kokipapi (father and son), based on the memories and oral traditions kept by descendants Nellie and Matthew Two Bulls. I seem to remember that there was also a book based on the same oral histories, but I'm not able to remember the title or find any web reference to it anymore. Any help would be appreciated, as well as feedback about this documentary (which I'm going to purchase in any case )
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Post by miyelo on Jul 24, 2008 20:45:17 GMT -5
the book and film were done by a guy named Kaare Vassenden. Norwegian I think. He has ''borrowed'' some of my footage for his films. He is ok but his films are dubious at best. His film on the ''crazy horse family'' even gives the wrong date for the Wounded Knee massacre. He also used some footage of my grandpa and never asked permission or paid him. You can get the book and the film at Prairie Edge in Rapid City. I saw them there not too long ago. They have a website too. Best store on the planet. (if you are rich!)
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Post by jinlian on Jul 25, 2008 4:32:39 GMT -5
Thanks, Miyelo, I know Prairie Edge and their store and was just going to order it there (I wish I could buy more there, but can't for the very same reason you mentioned). I wouldn't mind about one or two historical blurs (have to stand more when I'm watching or reading the news, and luckily bloopers like the one about Wounded Knee are easy to spot) as I'm more interested in the Two Bulls family interview. The documentary runs about 30 minute, while the book has 85 pages : I'm still going for the DVD, as I prefer to hear Lakota people's voice. Btw, I think you should contact them about the issue of your footage. At least, they may add one or two thank you lines in the acknowledgements part.
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Post by miyelo on Jul 26, 2008 21:10:18 GMT -5
ha ha. Yeah I used email with him but after his last video have not spoken to him. To be honest I don't even remember much of that video. If u cannot find the book u can have mine.
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Post by jinlian on Jul 27, 2008 3:05:42 GMT -5
Thanks for the offer Miyelo, I think I'll still go for the DVD. I'm surprised about their reaction anyway - in the place I live, violation of copyright is a very serious issue and I thought it was the same in the US. As we say, there's always something new to learn about people.
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Post by eamonn on Oct 17, 2009 10:44:10 GMT -5
I bought the video at the Red Cloud Heritage Centre and to be honest it is very misleading in terms of content. It lasts for approximately 25 minutes and provides very little information regarding Man Afraid of His Horse. The short film relates more to Nellie Two Bulls who has an apparent connection to Man Afraid of His Horse. This is ofcourse news to the Short Bull Family whom I know personally and who arent aware of any direct linage between the two families
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Post by Historian on Oct 20, 2009 10:20:08 GMT -5
I bought the video at the Red Cloud Heritage Centre and to be honest it is very misleading in terms of content. It lasts for approximately 25 minutes and provides very little information regarding Man Afraid of His Horse. The short film relates more to Nellie Two Bulls who has an apparent connection to Man Afraid of His Horse. This is of course news to the Short Bull Family whom I know personally and who arent aware of any direct linage between the two families As I understand it, Nellie (White Horse) Two Bulls was the daughter of George White Horse and Susan Black Sheep. It is through Susan Black Sheep that the lineage is traced to Man Afraid of His Horses. The oldest son of Young Man Afraid of His Horses was named Black Mountain Sheep, or Black Sheep, (aka Spoon).
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