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Post by chicheman on Oct 4, 2013 6:07:17 GMT -5
In addition to the recommended books mentioned in the previous postings, there is now a newly published one out :
I fought a good fight: A History of the Lipan - Apaches, by Sherry Robisnon, Univ. of North Texas ; June 2013
You will find search results in the net. That book also sounds very interesting.
chicheman
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Post by chicheman on Nov 4, 2013 7:12:17 GMT -5
Meanwhile I was receiving the book "I fought a good fight: A History of the Lipan Apaches" (Sherry Robinson)and am about to read it. Not done completely yet, but so far in my eyes it´s a really very good book from what I was reading already. The author did a great job in her research and gathering of information, so we can learn a lot of the time and people. She was speaking and working directly with Lipan descendants and others and using old documents and other written sources about the Lipans and neighbouring tribes as well as on non-Indians involved in historic times. Interesting to learn about early Plains Nde groups in general and about the history of the Lipans, which is still an ongoing one, since the Lipans are still here as the author shows, giving information on Lipan descendants of the 20th Century and today. As was already the case of the same author with "Apache Voices" with me, also this book met my positive expectations.
chicheman
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Post by marian2014 on Aug 5, 2014 0:03:28 GMT -5
looking for any photos or pictures of my great grandmother tersita a lipan princess
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Post by grahamew on Aug 5, 2014 3:26:50 GMT -5
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Post by Mike Henderson on Sept 29, 2014 11:52:53 GMT -5
Hello Walkingwoman, thank you for the tipp on the three books. Your recommendations of the tribe on informations are much appreciated. I´ll look out for it. Greetings from Germany, chicheman . There are no formal State tribes in TX. The Lipan Apache Tribe of TX May claim this, but if you do your home work Tx has only federal tribe and again no state tribes. The Lipan Apache Tribe of TX has done a spin on paperwork they got, which doesn't make them a state tribe...as talked about both Lipan tribes are in the process of getting there federal recognition. The Lipan Apache tribe of Tx has already submit once and could not meet the seven requirements as outlined by the BIA.
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Post by jasper4 on Oct 30, 2014 11:06:24 GMT -5
looking for any photos or pictures of my great grandmother tersita a lipan princess item of note there are NO PRINCESS whom are apache
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Post by jasper4 on Oct 30, 2014 11:15:46 GMT -5
In texas there are two groups the lipan band and the lipan tribe whom have had their own differences. the groups both which I have spoken to at length. The lipan are special in that many became mexican by way of formal law passed by president lamar of the republic of texas, due to he did not want a indian problem. thus the law made indios into mexican. Item of note pastor Robert Soto whom is member of the tribe faction did win a lenghty court battle to get back his eagle feathers. The decision has implications for state tribes and owning of eagle feathers for religious purposes. Both groups are good people yet both both have there gadflies or lost trying to be.
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Post by chicheman on Nov 9, 2014 13:22:56 GMT -5
Thanks Jasper and Mike Henderson for your additional informations. I just found out that there is serious Lipan Language revitalization in process and will post a link in the Language section.
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Post by jasper4 on Oct 21, 2015 11:02:39 GMT -5
There are Lipan both at mescalero and in oklahoma whose kin are some of the texas Lipan.
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Post by Fernando Reig on Dec 29, 2016 4:47:41 GMT -5
Great information on Lipan people I am founding here, although three years late. Before coming across this page, I ordered the book " The Lipan Apache; people of wind and lightning" by Thomas Britten, ¿any comments on this book?. Definetly I will go on with the reading suggestions of Walkingwoman and also of Chicheman. ¿does anyone knows a more recent anthropologycal study of Lipan people?. Grateful for any comment.
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Post by galdan on Jun 1, 2017 5:15:23 GMT -5
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Post by aj08 on Mar 31, 2024 3:19:08 GMT -5
need help finding info on Magoosh all i know is that he was a lipan apache
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Post by virgilio on Mar 31, 2024 3:30:34 GMT -5
need help finding info on Magoosh all i know is that he was a lipan apache Chief Magoosh was born into a band which traditionally inhabited the area around San Antonio, Texas. As a young boy, he witnessed the Battle of the Alamo. In 1850, however, a severe smallpox epidemic caused Magoosh’s band to flee the San Antonio area. One group went to Mexico and settled near Zaragosa, Coahuila. A second group led by Magoosh sought refuge with the Mescalero Apaches in New Mexico. When the Mescaleros were placed on a reservation in the 1870’s, Magoosh and his followers formed the core group of Lipan Apaches living on the Mescalero reservation. His descendants still live at Mescalero.
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Post by aj08 on Mar 31, 2024 4:39:42 GMT -5
Thank you for the info i am a descendent of Magoosh and trying to learn more about him
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